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Screamin Steel 04-01-2009 04:09 AM

RE: Its a great day in PA
 
We certainly have come a long, sad way from a PGC that served the sportsmen, and the now alien concept of deer and trees coexisting peacefully together! Read it carefully. It has more common sense than anything I've read from the PGC in over a decade.

bawanajim 04-01-2009 04:20 AM

RE: Its a great day in PA
 
I'm just throwing this out there lets not all start with the bold text stomping and yelling.

Has it occurred that after twenty years that "regeneration" might have failed? Maybe what started as plenty of new growth has turned to scrub maple with a scattering of popular? I'm just asking!

A couple of follow up pictures at maybe 5 years 10 years and present would be quite convincing.:eek:

bluebird2 04-01-2009 04:39 AM

RE: Its a great day in PA
 
The article states that only cuts that were at least 5 years old ,so the saplings were already beyond the reach of the deer.

bawanajim 04-01-2009 04:49 AM

RE: Its a great day in PA
 
Does it say any where in that story the size of the clear cuts, I do believe that when areas are cut today they are not any where near as large as in the past.
And any one that knows anything about forestry knows that this 1 % plan that the state is using is a foolish waste of the timber resources we have and certainly won't help wildlife in any way.Private land owners are select cutting at 2 to 3 times what the state is.:eek:
Our small game populations are at an all time low,and pole timber is a big factor in why we've had the decline.

bluebird2 04-01-2009 04:52 AM

RE: Its a great day in PA
 

And any one that knows anything about forestry knows that this 1 % plan that the state is using is a foolish waste of the timber resources
Why is that a foolish waste of the resource ,when that is the sustainable harvest rate?

bawanajim 04-01-2009 05:02 AM

RE: Its a great day in PA
 
Because many faster growing trees reach harvest size far before one hundred years. And after the first twenty years most trees besides Oak provide little or no benefits for wildlife.

bluebird2 04-01-2009 07:38 AM

RE: Its a great day in PA
 
The vast majority of SFL and SGL are areas with poor soils and slow growth rates which is why they use the 1% average harvest rate.

BTBowhunter 04-01-2009 08:02 AM

RE: Its a great day in PA
 
I notice that we STILL are getting only part of that article.

Why, pray tell, isn't he rest of it there?

bluebird2 04-01-2009 08:44 AM

RE: Its a great day in PA
 
For your reading pleasure.

http://www.fortgrundsow.com/PGN1983O...utUpdate30.jpg

Screamin Steel 04-01-2009 08:52 AM

RE: Its a great day in PA
 

ORIGINAL: bawanajim

Does it say any where in that story the size of the clear cuts, I do believe that when areas are cut today they are not any where near as large as in the past.
And any one that knows anything about forestry knows that this 1 % plan that the state is using is a foolish waste of the timber resources we have and certainly won't help wildlife in any way.Private land owners are select cutting at 2 to 3 times what the state is.:eek:
Our small game populations are at an all time low,and pole timber is a big factor in why we've had the decline.
For once BWJ, I am in total agreement with you![8D]


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