RE: Its a great day in PA
 

Good story and good work R.S.B. [/align]

RE: Its a great day in PA
 

If you ever see where deer created better habitatfor themselves, small gameor other big game species you be sure to let us know. The whole world is waiting to see such a miracle of nature.

The habitat work that was done, and will continue being done in the future,on these projects will also benefit the deer foryears to come into the future, as well.

Nowmaybe you cango ahead and tell us why are you so obnoxiously negative about everything good for the future of wildlife and hunting?

R.S. Bodenhorn

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I too want to commend Sproulman for making an attempt to see what he can learn. Even though we have disagreed on some things, (well ok many things), I still find him to be an honorable person willing to at least be fair in his evaluations of the way he sees things.

I just hope he goes with the objectively to perhaps see things with both an open eye and open mind toward the thought that perhaps those old ideals he holds might not be entirely correct. I have seen that he is not entirely wrong, about some things, and I hope he isn’t too closed minded to see there is always more to learn about the inter-actions of wildlife, habitat and nature; even for us old dogs.

R.S. Bodenhorn

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A failed clearcut surrounded by mature forest stands adds to the diversity of the habitat and creates grazing areas for elk and deer just like the forest openings created by the PGC and RMEF.

I will, right after you tell us why you keep misleading and deceiving hunters about the carrying capacity of the habitat in 2G and the reason for the huge decrease in the herd. It would be hard to have a more negative view of the carrying capacity of the habitat in 2G than you have.

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That is absolutely one of the most ridiculous statements you've ever made. Please tell us where there is even one "failed clearcut" caused by deer over browsingthat has now miraculously become a grazing area for deer and elk. You outdid yourself with this one

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BTB, if a 10 acre clearcut is seeded in red oak, but browsing prevents the regeneration, tell us...What will take hold in that open clearcut?




Regeneration sometimes fails after harvest cut-ting on the Allegheny Plateau of Pennsylvania as aresult of excessive deer browsing, (Marquis 1975a,Jordan 1967, Shafer and others 1961, Grisez 1957,Bennett 1957, Frontz 1930). Most such failurescan be avoided by limiting cutting to stands thatcontain abundant advance seedlings, or by usingshelterwood techniques (Marquis and others1975). But regardless of the care used in prescrib-ing cuts, there continue to be a few regenerationfailures.
Once regeneration fails, ecological changes oc-cur that make it increasingly difficult to establishtree seedlings. Any viable seed buried in the forestfloor generally germinates during the first 3 or 4years after cutting (Marquis 1975b). Thereafter,seed sources become limiting to further seedlingestablishment. Herbaceous vegetation often be-comes established and some kinds of herbs can in-terfere with the growth and development of anyseedlings present (Horsley 1977a, 1977b).

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1 thing for sure,that i see, we will never go back to deer we once had,i have come to see that.:(

its like meeting i was in on all this GAS DRILLING MARCELLUS THING.

i asked if the FRACKING of shale could leak into our drinking water.

the GAS guys that are making 50 dollars per hr, yes, you heard that right, 50 dollars per hr 10 hrs a day ,6 days a week went after sproule on WE ARE DIGGING 8000 FT DOWN AND NO WAY FOR GAS TO GET IN YOUR STREAMS OR DRINKING WATER.

dep was there and said, SPROULE THEY CAN DRILL 1000 FT FROM A STREAM TO IF THEY GET PERMIT OR 150 FT FROM YOUR HOME.

they all out numbered me 10 to 3..

then i saved the ACE until end.

SIR, CAN YOU TELL ME WHY a GAS DRILLING CO. IS NOW UNDER INVESTIGATION AND WAS STOPPED FOR GETTING GAS INTO DRINKING WATER INSNOWSHOE AREa OF CENTRE,i may be little off on area this happened

all heads went down.

well, as paul harvey used to say.good day!

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Obviously, as your 30 year old quote says, herbaceous vegetation takes over. Now please show me some evidence as to what type of herbaceous vegetation takes over and what wildlife will benefit from that vegetation that the deer don't continue to wipe out. (I think we both know)

RE: Its a great day in PA
 

well it sure is nice out today anyone get out to do some walking

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Wont exactly be walking but My son and I are headed out to put some lime down on a new food plot we cleared a couple weeks ago.

Got a trail cam out there to check too. Last time we got 60 pictures in 3+ days so I expect the batteries will be dead and the card will be full.