Some nice bucks (pic)
02-23-2009 | 05:34 PM
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RE: Some nice bucks (pic)
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Typical Whitetail Deer - Rifle (Page 1)
RANK NAME CITY COUNTY YEAR SCORE
1 JANOWSKY, FRITZ WELLSBURG, NY BRADFORD 1943 189-0
2 PARRY, IVAN GRAYSVILLE GREENE 1974 184-6
3 ALLISON, CHESTER HARLEYSVILLE BLAIR 1951 182-5
4 REIBSON, FLOYD FORKSVILLE SULLIVAN 1931 180-4
5 MILLER, RAYMOND E BEDFORD BEDFORD 1957 177-5
6 KINLEY, PERRY RIDGWAY JEFFERSON 1920 177-0
7 ZERBE, JOHN MCCLURE MIFFLIN 1936 176-5
8 RINEHULS, CLYDE H SAYRE BRADFORD 1944 176-0
9 YOUNG, ARTHUR CENTRE HALL MCKEAN 1930 175-4
10 HOFFMAN, ROBERT MT PLEASANT WESTMORELAND 1949 174-6
11 MCKANE, ROBERT QUAKERTOWN SULLIVAN 2004 174-4
12 BLACK, LEWIS DARLINGTON BEAVER 1979 174-1
13 KIFER, MEAD CLARION CLARION 1947 173-3
14 LABROSSE JR, RONALD J MCMURRAY WASHINGTON 1996 172-6
15 DUNN, CRAIG SMETHPORT MCKEAN 1930 172-4
16 SCHUCKERS, WALTER REYNOLDSVILLE JEFFERSON 2006 171-4
17 WALKER, PAUL SOMERSET SOMERSET 1941 171-2
18 HELANDER, HARRY REW MCKEAN 1955 170-4
18 BOLTON, TYLER WERNERSVILLE BERKS 2006 170-4
18 BURTON, RALPH E CYCLONE MCKEAN 1933 170-4
21 FEATHERS, CLAUDE E FREEDOM BLAIR 1943 170-0
22 PAINTER, LYSLE R NEW WILMINGTON JEFFERSON 1954 169-6
22 SQUIRES, RALPH W MONTROSE SUSQUEHANNA 1941 169-6
24 ROTHROCK, GEORGE PHILIPSBURG CENTRE 1931 169-2
25 BOWSER, WAYNE MARKLEYSBURG FAYETTE 1977 169-1
26 FEHLINGER, CHARLES DALLAS LUZERNE 1945 169-0
26 SCHULTZ, EZRA NEW ALBANY BRADFORD 1927 169-0
28 SUTLEY, E G WEST HICKORY FOREST 1932 168-7
28 MILLER, WINFIELD ELVERSON CHESTER 1945 168-7
28 SHINE, CHARLES JAMESTOWN MERCER 1942 168-7
31 SWEENEY, PAUL LILLY INDIANA 1955 168-6
32 CORNMAN, RONALD CARLISLE CUMBERLAND UNKN 168-5
33 SHAFFER, ROBERT EDINBORO MERCER 1956 168-3
34 NAU, BERNARD MONROVILLE WESTMORELAND 1958 167-4
35 DAVIS, DEBORAH LIGONIER WASHINGTON 1989 167-2
36 REDCAY, BRIAN ELIZABETHTOWN DAUPHIN 1984 167-1
37 WALCHESKI, VINCE CANTON BRADFORD 1932 166-7
38 BURLINGAME, CHARLES COOPERSTOWN CRAWFORD 1946 166-5
38 HOUSEKNECHT, BRADY HUGHESVILLE LYCOMING 1940 166-5
40 DE DIONISIO, RICK ERIE ERIE 1985 166-4
What do you think of those pre-AR dinks.
Typical Whitetail Deer - Rifle (Page 1)
RANK NAME CITY COUNTY YEAR SCORE
1 JANOWSKY, FRITZ WELLSBURG, NY BRADFORD 1943 189-0
2 PARRY, IVAN GRAYSVILLE GREENE 1974 184-6
3 ALLISON, CHESTER HARLEYSVILLE BLAIR 1951 182-5
4 REIBSON, FLOYD FORKSVILLE SULLIVAN 1931 180-4
5 MILLER, RAYMOND E BEDFORD BEDFORD 1957 177-5
6 KINLEY, PERRY RIDGWAY JEFFERSON 1920 177-0
7 ZERBE, JOHN MCCLURE MIFFLIN 1936 176-5
8 RINEHULS, CLYDE H SAYRE BRADFORD 1944 176-0
9 YOUNG, ARTHUR CENTRE HALL MCKEAN 1930 175-4
10 HOFFMAN, ROBERT MT PLEASANT WESTMORELAND 1949 174-6
11 MCKANE, ROBERT QUAKERTOWN SULLIVAN 2004 174-4
12 BLACK, LEWIS DARLINGTON BEAVER 1979 174-1
13 KIFER, MEAD CLARION CLARION 1947 173-3
14 LABROSSE JR, RONALD J MCMURRAY WASHINGTON 1996 172-6
15 DUNN, CRAIG SMETHPORT MCKEAN 1930 172-4
16 SCHUCKERS, WALTER REYNOLDSVILLE JEFFERSON 2006 171-4
17 WALKER, PAUL SOMERSET SOMERSET 1941 171-2
18 HELANDER, HARRY REW MCKEAN 1955 170-4
18 BOLTON, TYLER WERNERSVILLE BERKS 2006 170-4
18 BURTON, RALPH E CYCLONE MCKEAN 1933 170-4
21 FEATHERS, CLAUDE E FREEDOM BLAIR 1943 170-0
22 PAINTER, LYSLE R NEW WILMINGTON JEFFERSON 1954 169-6
22 SQUIRES, RALPH W MONTROSE SUSQUEHANNA 1941 169-6
24 ROTHROCK, GEORGE PHILIPSBURG CENTRE 1931 169-2
25 BOWSER, WAYNE MARKLEYSBURG FAYETTE 1977 169-1
26 FEHLINGER, CHARLES DALLAS LUZERNE 1945 169-0
26 SCHULTZ, EZRA NEW ALBANY BRADFORD 1927 169-0
28 SUTLEY, E G WEST HICKORY FOREST 1932 168-7
28 MILLER, WINFIELD ELVERSON CHESTER 1945 168-7
28 SHINE, CHARLES JAMESTOWN MERCER 1942 168-7
31 SWEENEY, PAUL LILLY INDIANA 1955 168-6
32 CORNMAN, RONALD CARLISLE CUMBERLAND UNKN 168-5
33 SHAFFER, ROBERT EDINBORO MERCER 1956 168-3
34 NAU, BERNARD MONROVILLE WESTMORELAND 1958 167-4
35 DAVIS, DEBORAH LIGONIER WASHINGTON 1989 167-2
36 REDCAY, BRIAN ELIZABETHTOWN DAUPHIN 1984 167-1
37 WALCHESKI, VINCE CANTON BRADFORD 1932 166-7
38 BURLINGAME, CHARLES COOPERSTOWN CRAWFORD 1946 166-5
38 HOUSEKNECHT, BRADY HUGHESVILLE LYCOMING 1940 166-5
40 DE DIONISIO, RICK ERIE ERIE 1985 166-4
What do you think of those pre-AR dinks.
This list goes back 89 years with the average year for a non AR buck being 59 years ago. None of the top 10 came after 1974. Before AR's our best bucks had definitely gone downhill. There is one lone entry from the 90's Only three from the 80's and three from the 70's and zero from the 60's. From the 50's on back the quality was better but guess what? we had far less deer then!
It looks like our buck quality had definitely bottomed out before AR's. The next time this list gets published it will be interesting indeed
02-23-2009 | 05:39 PM
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RE: Some nice bucks (pic)
I don’t know what point you were trying to make by posting those best rifle harvest buck scores but you probably missed your target.
I have take the liberty of breaking them down to time periods and then averaged the number of inches per buck for each time period. Here is the data for the 39 bucks that had a known year of harvest.
Time period………………….number of entries……………………..average inches of antler
Prior to 1931.……………………….4.…………… ………………...........173.2
1931-1940.………………………….7.………… …………………...........177.3
1941-1950.…………………………12.………… …………………..........172.6
1951-1960.………………………….6.………… …………………...........172.2
1961-1970.………………………….0.………… ………………….............N/A
1971-1980.………………………….3.………… …………………...........176.0
1981-1990.………………………….3.………… …………………...........167.0
1991-2000.………………………….1.………… …………………...........172.6
2001-present………………………..3.………… …………………............172.2
All of the ones since 2001 were harvested after antler restrictions. How many more do you think will be entered in that since 2001 column over the next few years?
R.S. Bodenhorn
RSB just blew you out of the water. Try again!!!
PLEASE NOTE. THE RACK SIZES OF RECORD BOOK BUCK DID NOT INCREASE after ARS!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have take the liberty of breaking them down to time periods and then averaged the number of inches per buck for each time period. Here is the data for the 39 bucks that had a known year of harvest.
Time period………………….number of entries……………………..average inches of antler
Prior to 1931.……………………….4.…………… ………………...........173.2
1931-1940.………………………….7.………… …………………...........177.3
1941-1950.…………………………12.………… …………………..........172.6
1951-1960.………………………….6.………… …………………...........172.2
1961-1970.………………………….0.………… ………………….............N/A
1971-1980.………………………….3.………… …………………...........176.0
1981-1990.………………………….3.………… …………………...........167.0
1991-2000.………………………….1.………… …………………...........172.6
2001-present………………………..3.………… …………………............172.2
All of the ones since 2001 were harvested after antler restrictions. How many more do you think will be entered in that since 2001 column over the next few years?
R.S. Bodenhorn
RSB just blew you out of the water. Try again!!!
PLEASE NOTE. THE RACK SIZES OF RECORD BOOK BUCK DID NOT INCREASE after ARS!!!!!!!!!!!!
02-23-2009 | 05:42 PM
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From: Westmoreland County PA.
RE: Some nice bucks (pic)
ORIGINAL: R.S.B.
I don’t know what point you were trying to make by posting those best rifle harvest buck scores but you probably missed your target.
I have take the liberty of breaking them down to time periods and then averaged the number of inches per buck for each time period. Here is the data for the 39 bucks that had a known year of harvest.
Time period………………….number of entries……………………..average inches of antler
Prior to 1931.……………………….4.…………… ………………...........173.2
1931-1940.………………………….7.………… …………………...........177.3
1941-1950.…………………………12.………… …………………..........172.6
1951-1960.………………………….6.………… …………………...........172.2
1961-1970.………………………….0.………… ………………….............N/A
1971-1980.………………………….3.………… …………………...........176.0
1981-1990.………………………….3.………… …………………...........167.0
1991-2000.………………………….1.………… …………………...........172.6
2001-present………………………..3.………… …………………............172.2
All of the ones since 2001 were harvested after antler restrictions. How many more do you think will be entered in that since 2001 column over the next few years?
R.S. Bodenhorn
ORIGINAL: bluebird2
Typical Whitetail Deer - Rifle (Page 1)
RANK NAME CITY COUNTY YEAR SCORE
1 JANOWSKY, FRITZ WELLSBURG, NY BRADFORD 1943 189-0
2 PARRY, IVAN GRAYSVILLE GREENE 1974 184-6
3 ALLISON, CHESTER HARLEYSVILLE BLAIR 1951 182-5
4 REIBSON, FLOYD FORKSVILLE SULLIVAN 1931 180-4
5 MILLER, RAYMOND E BEDFORD BEDFORD 1957 177-5
6 KINLEY, PERRY RIDGWAY JEFFERSON 1920 177-0
7 ZERBE, JOHN MCCLURE MIFFLIN 1936 176-5
8 RINEHULS, CLYDE H SAYRE BRADFORD 1944 176-0
9 YOUNG, ARTHUR CENTRE HALL MCKEAN 1930 175-4
10 HOFFMAN, ROBERT MT PLEASANT WESTMORELAND 1949 174-6
11 MCKANE, ROBERT QUAKERTOWN SULLIVAN 2004 174-4
12 BLACK, LEWIS DARLINGTON BEAVER 1979 174-1
13 KIFER, MEAD CLARION CLARION 1947 173-3
14 LABROSSE JR, RONALD J MCMURRAY WASHINGTON 1996 172-6
15 DUNN, CRAIG SMETHPORT MCKEAN 1930 172-4
16 SCHUCKERS, WALTER REYNOLDSVILLE JEFFERSON 2006 171-4
17 WALKER, PAUL SOMERSET SOMERSET 1941 171-2
18 HELANDER, HARRY REW MCKEAN 1955 170-4
18 BOLTON, TYLER WERNERSVILLE BERKS 2006 170-4
18 BURTON, RALPH E CYCLONE MCKEAN 1933 170-4
21 FEATHERS, CLAUDE E FREEDOM BLAIR 1943 170-0
22 PAINTER, LYSLE R NEW WILMINGTON JEFFERSON 1954 169-6
22 SQUIRES, RALPH W MONTROSE SUSQUEHANNA 1941 169-6
24 ROTHROCK, GEORGE PHILIPSBURG CENTRE 1931 169-2
25 BOWSER, WAYNE MARKLEYSBURG FAYETTE 1977 169-1
26 FEHLINGER, CHARLES DALLAS LUZERNE 1945 169-0
26 SCHULTZ, EZRA NEW ALBANY BRADFORD 1927 169-0
28 SUTLEY, E G WEST HICKORY FOREST 1932 168-7
28 MILLER, WINFIELD ELVERSON CHESTER 1945 168-7
28 SHINE, CHARLES JAMESTOWN MERCER 1942 168-7
31 SWEENEY, PAUL LILLY INDIANA 1955 168-6
32 CORNMAN, RONALD CARLISLE CUMBERLAND UNKN 168-5
33 SHAFFER, ROBERT EDINBORO MERCER 1956 168-3
34 NAU, BERNARD MONROVILLE WESTMORELAND 1958 167-4
35 DAVIS, DEBORAH LIGONIER WASHINGTON 1989 167-2
36 REDCAY, BRIAN ELIZABETHTOWN DAUPHIN 1984 167-1
37 WALCHESKI, VINCE CANTON BRADFORD 1932 166-7
38 BURLINGAME, CHARLES COOPERSTOWN CRAWFORD 1946 166-5
38 HOUSEKNECHT, BRADY HUGHESVILLE LYCOMING 1940 166-5
40 DE DIONISIO, RICK ERIE ERIE 1985 166-4
What do you think of those pre-AR dinks.
Typical Whitetail Deer - Rifle (Page 1)
RANK NAME CITY COUNTY YEAR SCORE
1 JANOWSKY, FRITZ WELLSBURG, NY BRADFORD 1943 189-0
2 PARRY, IVAN GRAYSVILLE GREENE 1974 184-6
3 ALLISON, CHESTER HARLEYSVILLE BLAIR 1951 182-5
4 REIBSON, FLOYD FORKSVILLE SULLIVAN 1931 180-4
5 MILLER, RAYMOND E BEDFORD BEDFORD 1957 177-5
6 KINLEY, PERRY RIDGWAY JEFFERSON 1920 177-0
7 ZERBE, JOHN MCCLURE MIFFLIN 1936 176-5
8 RINEHULS, CLYDE H SAYRE BRADFORD 1944 176-0
9 YOUNG, ARTHUR CENTRE HALL MCKEAN 1930 175-4
10 HOFFMAN, ROBERT MT PLEASANT WESTMORELAND 1949 174-6
11 MCKANE, ROBERT QUAKERTOWN SULLIVAN 2004 174-4
12 BLACK, LEWIS DARLINGTON BEAVER 1979 174-1
13 KIFER, MEAD CLARION CLARION 1947 173-3
14 LABROSSE JR, RONALD J MCMURRAY WASHINGTON 1996 172-6
15 DUNN, CRAIG SMETHPORT MCKEAN 1930 172-4
16 SCHUCKERS, WALTER REYNOLDSVILLE JEFFERSON 2006 171-4
17 WALKER, PAUL SOMERSET SOMERSET 1941 171-2
18 HELANDER, HARRY REW MCKEAN 1955 170-4
18 BOLTON, TYLER WERNERSVILLE BERKS 2006 170-4
18 BURTON, RALPH E CYCLONE MCKEAN 1933 170-4
21 FEATHERS, CLAUDE E FREEDOM BLAIR 1943 170-0
22 PAINTER, LYSLE R NEW WILMINGTON JEFFERSON 1954 169-6
22 SQUIRES, RALPH W MONTROSE SUSQUEHANNA 1941 169-6
24 ROTHROCK, GEORGE PHILIPSBURG CENTRE 1931 169-2
25 BOWSER, WAYNE MARKLEYSBURG FAYETTE 1977 169-1
26 FEHLINGER, CHARLES DALLAS LUZERNE 1945 169-0
26 SCHULTZ, EZRA NEW ALBANY BRADFORD 1927 169-0
28 SUTLEY, E G WEST HICKORY FOREST 1932 168-7
28 MILLER, WINFIELD ELVERSON CHESTER 1945 168-7
28 SHINE, CHARLES JAMESTOWN MERCER 1942 168-7
31 SWEENEY, PAUL LILLY INDIANA 1955 168-6
32 CORNMAN, RONALD CARLISLE CUMBERLAND UNKN 168-5
33 SHAFFER, ROBERT EDINBORO MERCER 1956 168-3
34 NAU, BERNARD MONROVILLE WESTMORELAND 1958 167-4
35 DAVIS, DEBORAH LIGONIER WASHINGTON 1989 167-2
36 REDCAY, BRIAN ELIZABETHTOWN DAUPHIN 1984 167-1
37 WALCHESKI, VINCE CANTON BRADFORD 1932 166-7
38 BURLINGAME, CHARLES COOPERSTOWN CRAWFORD 1946 166-5
38 HOUSEKNECHT, BRADY HUGHESVILLE LYCOMING 1940 166-5
40 DE DIONISIO, RICK ERIE ERIE 1985 166-4
What do you think of those pre-AR dinks.
I don’t know what point you were trying to make by posting those best rifle harvest buck scores but you probably missed your target.
I have take the liberty of breaking them down to time periods and then averaged the number of inches per buck for each time period. Here is the data for the 39 bucks that had a known year of harvest.
Time period………………….number of entries……………………..average inches of antler
Prior to 1931.……………………….4.…………… ………………...........173.2
1931-1940.………………………….7.………… …………………...........177.3
1941-1950.…………………………12.………… …………………..........172.6
1951-1960.………………………….6.………… …………………...........172.2
1961-1970.………………………….0.………… ………………….............N/A
1971-1980.………………………….3.………… …………………...........176.0
1981-1990.………………………….3.………… …………………...........167.0
1991-2000.………………………….1.………… …………………...........172.6
2001-present………………………..3.………… …………………............172.2
All of the ones since 2001 were harvested after antler restrictions. How many more do you think will be entered in that since 2001 column over the next few years?
R.S. Bodenhorn
02-23-2009 | 05:48 PM
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RE: Some nice bucks (pic)
Shame on you R.S.B! How did you miss the other significant info posted by BB? It clearly shows total support for the present day deer management plan. Particularly from 1931 to 1950.I'm pretty sure our deer herd was smaller then. Ah!, less deer, more food, better quality deer. Just like today!
02-23-2009 | 05:53 PM
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RE: Some nice bucks (pic)
WHOOPSIE!
The
must have been dizzy from his spin machine and he went and gave us serious evidence that he's dead wrong on AR's.
Man, the dead horses are gonna be running for cover tonight
The
must have been dizzy from his spin machine and he went and gave us serious evidence that he's dead wrong on AR's. Man, the dead horses are gonna be running for cover tonight
02-23-2009 | 05:55 PM
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RE: Some nice bucks (pic)
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Which number is bigger 172.6 or 172.2? Try again!!!
1991-2000.………………………….1.………… …………………...........172.6
2001-present………………………..3.………… …………………............172.2
2001-present………………………..3.………… …………………............172.2