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Old 09-06-2008 | 06:42 AM
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Bluebird have you started to wonder yet why your perspective of "so-called" facts is not even close to the "norm"? You need to start worrying about that! Do yourself a favor and start getting some professional opinions about your condition!
There are no "so-called" facts. They are either factual or they are not. The facts I post are from the PGC, Dr. Kroll , Dr. Demarais and WMU 118 in MI.

If you truly believe I have a problem,would you be so kind as to provide the facts you have that show I have a problem that needs to be treated.

Thanks in advance!!
So sad.
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Old 09-06-2008 | 07:34 AM
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I agree it is really sad that the PGC chose the worst possible method for increasing the buck age structure, while claiming they are managing the herd based on the best available science. Especially , when there was no science that showed ARs were needed for any other reason than to get hunters to shoot more doe.


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Old 09-06-2008 | 07:38 AM
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Maybe if you explained this all to your doctor..........
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Old 09-06-2008 | 08:16 AM
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Don't you realize by now that childish insults mean nothing to me. If you want to put a burr under my saddle ,provide some facts that prove I am wrong. You tried and failed with Dr. Kroll's article ,so try a little harder this time.
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Old 09-06-2008 | 08:18 AM
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PERSONALITY DISORDERS
Mental health professionals use the term "personality disorders" to refer to personality traits that are extreme or that create so much difficulty in life as to be considered disabling. Personality disorders are more severe than the negative personality traits that we all show at various times throughout our lives, or the "problem" people that we sometimes have to deal with at work. Personality disorders are medically defined as long-term, pervasive, inflexible patterns of thoughts and behaviors that are not well adapted or do not fit within the range of behavior considered normal. These patterns lead to significant difficulties in the ability to reason or interact with others or to behave appropriately.
[ul][*]Causes of Personality Disorders[*]Diagnosis of Personality Disorders[*]Treatment of Personality Disorders [/ul]
Personality disorders can surface at any time, including old age. As many as 10% of older adults living at home may have a personality disorder. This figure is even higher among older adults living in nursing homes.
People with personality disorders are often involved in repeated episodes of disruptive or difficult behavior. Others often consider these people overbearing, dramatic, or even obnoxious. Personality disorders are categorized according to the types of behaviors that are seen:





[*]Paranoid
[*]Narcissistic

[*]Schizoid
[*]Avoidant

[*]Schizotypal
[*]Dependent

[*]Antisocial
[*]Obsessive-compulsive

[*]Borderline
[*]Passive-aggressive

[*]Histrionic
[*]Depressive
People who show paranoid behavior are always suspicious of others, and often become irritable and hostile. Older adults may have paranoid delusions, become very agitated, or even assault someone. People who show schizoid behavior are not usually interested in social relationships and may behave oddly or in ways that tend to keep them isolated and separate from others. Older adults with schizoid behavior may have poor, strained, or sometimes no relationships with caregivers. In schizotypal behavior, people may have strange, unusual, or inappropriate behaviors or beliefs that may lead to having conflicts with other people, including caregivers.
Behavior that is antisocial shows little regard or respect for standard rules and laws of society. In addition, antisocial people often do not seem to have a conscience or care about others. People who show borderline behavior have unstable emotions, which lead to unstable relationships. They may have emotional outbursts or injure themselves. People who show histrionic behavior are over emotional and want to be the center of attention. They are often disorganized and lack inhibitions. People who are narcissistic think that they should have and, in fact, are entitled to whatever they want. They often act superior, self-important, and arrogant. They do not seem to care about others. Older adults who are narcissistic may appear hostile, extremely angry, paranoid, or depressed.
People who show avoidant behavior are shy, inhibited, and very sensitive to rejection and how others look at them. In older adults, this often leads to having not many social relationships and little support. People who show dependent behavior rely completely or almost completely on others to make decisions and for support. Older adults may be demanding or clinging, as well as depressed. People who are obsessive-compulsive are constantly worried about cleanliness and keeping everything in order. They are perfectionists and do not want to compromise, especially under stress. Older adults may show obsessive-compulsive behavior in response to an illness or moving to a nursing home or other new environment.
In passive-aggressive behavior, people tend to resist authority or any demands placed on them by not taking any action, ie, procrastinating. These people often criticize and resent others. People who show depressive behavior view life as always gloomy and miserable, with no hope of change in the future. These people often have low self-esteem and feel guilty. They often have major or clinical depression in later life.
Personality disorders are sometimes grouped into clusters:
[ul][*]Cluster A includes the paranoid, schizoid, and schizotypal personality disorders.
Individuals with these conditions often appear odd or eccentric.[*]Cluster B includes the antisocial, borderline, histrionic and narcissistic personality disorders.
Individuals with these disorders often appear dramatic, emotional, or erratic.[*]Cluster C includes the avoidant, dependent, and obsessive-compulsive personality disorders.
Individuals with these disorders often appear anxious or fearful. [/ul]

Causes of Personality Disorders
The roots of personality disorder lie in both early life experiences and genetic (ie, inherited) factors. However, severe changes in personality may develop during later life because of the unique stresses experienced by older adults. Many older adults become overwhelmed by losses (eg, deaths among friends and loved ones), medical problems, and stresses that build up over time. This is especially true for people who are not able to cope well or do not have the personal, social, or financial resources to act as a cushion or buffer against these stresses. Being admitted to a hospital or nursing home can be a particularly stressful event, because of the loss of familiar environment, personal items, privacy, and the control over one's schedule.
In institutional settings, personality disorders can show up when an older adult tries to cope with the stresses in their new environment by exaggerating strong personality traits. For example, a person with obsessive-compulsive tendencies might try to keep a sense of control by demanding that schedules and rules of hygiene are followed exactly. People who have dependent personalities may feel helpless and panicked if they don't receive enough attention, and respond by clinging or by constantly asking questions or asking for help. People who have paranoid, antisocial, or borderline personalities may refuse to cooperate with treatment plans or institutional rules.
Diagnosis of Personality Disorders
Personality disorders can typically be diagnosed only by a mental health professional such as a psychiatrist. Even then, the diagnosis can be very difficult in older adults. It requires a detailed lifetime history, which is often beyond the ability of the affected person, or the knowledge of their family and caregivers to provide. In addition, this history often becomes less accurate and distorted because of memory problems or the tendency that we all have to put the "best face" on past behaviors. People with some types of personality disorders (eg, paranoid) may also be reluctant to speak openly with a mental health professional, aggravating the problem. This means that mental health professionals often need to observe someone for a fairly long time under various circumstances before being able to make a diagnosis.
Separating personality disorders from underlying medical or psychological problems is also difficult. For example, major or clinical depression, psychosis, or other psychiatric problems can distort personality features considerably (see also Dementia, Delirium, Depression, Anxiety Disorders, and Psychotic Disorders). Alzheimer's disease and other dementias are often associated with personality changes, including loss of interest, increased self-image, or impulsive behaviors. Similarly, physical pain and disability can lead to dependency or withdrawal, which can resemble symptoms seen in personality disorders. Brain damage or tumors can also lead to dramatic changes in personality.
Remember that in true personality disorder, extreme, inflexible, and difficult personality traits become a lasting part of someone's overall personality. Many older adults who appear to have troubling personality problems do not have a personality disorder. Some people just have trouble adapting to changes, which is a condition called "adjustment disorder." An adjustment disorder develops when a previously healthy and well-adjusted person suddenly shows personality changes as a result of severe stress.
Treatment of Personality Disorders
Personality disorders may continue unchanged over time, or they may seem to get a little better, then a little worse, then a little better, etc. The treatment of personality disorders in later life is complicated and, sometimes, success is limited. In addition, underlying mental disorders such as clinical depression or dementia further complicate treatment for personality disorders, and vice versa.
Treatment in older adults usually focuses on short-term goals meant to decrease stress and the frequency and intensity of difficult behaviors, rather than to cure the disorder. The first step should always be to confirm the diagnosis and then to identify recent stresses that may account for the current behavior problem(s). Treatment for personality disorders includes many forms of psychotherapy, depending on the situation. A variety of possible drug treatments are also available, including medications for depression, anxiety, and psychoses (see also Depression and Anxiety Disorders). However, medications are used cautiously, because of the potential for side effects or drug interactions, as well as the possibility of affecting other medical problems. The best treatment approach often involves a combination of psychotherapy and drug treatment.
Family members and other caregivers (eg, visiting nurses or social workers) need to communicate closely with healthcare providers during the treatment of personality disorders. However, if the affected older adult has a conflict with certain family members or caregivers, this can complicate treatment. Treatment is often most effective in long-term care settings such as nursing homes because of the constant supervision and professional communication among staff members. In these settings, difficult or disruptive behaviors can sometimes be traced to particular activities or staff interactions, which can then be changed as part of the treatment strategy.
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Old 09-06-2008 | 08:48 AM
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What part of your post had anything to do with the subject of PA Antler Restrictions? Do you realize that posts like that just demonstrate that you don't have any facts to refute my position on ARs in PA.
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Old 09-06-2008 | 09:20 AM
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They say that denial is generally the first reaction.....

You need to overcome the denial first if you ever expect to recover.
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Old 09-06-2008 | 09:31 AM
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"If you truly believe I have a problem,would you be so kind as to provide the facts you have that show I have a problem that needs to be treated.

Thanks in advance!! "

You asked? I provided the documentation that you have a problem!
Numerous opinions and posts have tried to enlighten you, but you reject or contort facts and figures. In case you did not bother to read my post, you my friend, fit in nicely in a couple of the personality disorder categories. Now, believe it or not (what a surprise) you are rejecting my attempt to help you as if you did not ask me to provide the proper documentaion! isn't there someone close to you that can help you.

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Old 09-06-2008 | 09:33 AM
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I apologize to all others who found my post inconvenient, but we are talking about a sick man who is obviously reaching out for attention -- let's hope he reaches out for help.
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Old 09-06-2008 | 10:06 AM
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Dr. Martin?
Do you have a radio or tv show as well as a self appointed directer of NYS deer management intent on doing what you know is best for us there - whether we agree or not?

All you did in the NY thread was attempt to discredit anyone who disagreed AND PRESENTED THEIR REASONS WHY as childish or worse.
Not once addressing the arguements given on merit or wothiness. You cannot handle or tolerate debate on your home turf of NY and you now interject attacks in the PA discussions?
Incredible!

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