NY county is only Manhattan. The gunshop must have stopped the sale because of the recent bullsh*t with Bloomberg suing shops, because otherwise they had no right to not sell you a gun legally in upstate NY.

I hate the gun laws in the city, and thank god I don't have ot follow them... hehe... but, a little tip.. possessing a long gun in your home without the permit is a minor misdemeanor... take that how you want, but for most people with regular jobs, you're better off not trying to get the permit, considering the chances that "we" would ever find that gun in your house are slim.

Well, as I have said it's been a few years since I have purchased a firearm and as Airborne said maybe its Bloomberg doing since he has tried to stop the flow of guns from out of state. I can imagine in-state sellers being extra cautious selling arms to NYC residents since it would probably be even easier suing them. When I did purchase firearms on Long Island I had to remind the shop to fill out the NYC paperwork for me. It's not like they cared one bit that I was a NYC resident. They cared more about making the sale. Again as Airborne suggested I am certain there are scores of people who own hunting guns in the city that never bothered to get the NYC permit. I can't see it being easy for anyone to get caught if they only use them for something like hunting and target shooting outside the city.

Interesting... I'll be at Gander Mt. this weekend, I'll ask them their take.

Please let us know what they tell you. By the way, Gander is a really nice store up there in Kingston. They have some really great prices on things. Much better than Cabela's has in their catalogs on numerous things.

A lot of guys typically get frustrated with City Hunters b/c they are unfamiliar with the land and trespass whether it's intentional or not it happens. When they stop at the local watering holes they are a bit louder and careless than most locals. Some times they are a bit unethical as well, we see City hunters hunting from their ATV's all the time. I'm not going to sit here and say that's all of them, and some locals definitly act the same way. I've also met a lot of great guys that are city hunters. But on average when you see a CITY hunter he can be described by the above.

It's not b/c CITY guys shoot up all the deer, I don't see that happen often.

Well, I will agree with you about ATV's eventhough locals seem to love them these days also. Just doesn't make one bit of sense to me that someone would drag an ATV upstate from the city to use it to get to his stand which is probably only a couple hundred yards from a road! Just ridiculous! If you want to joy ride on ATV's you have all year round to do it. Why wait for hunting season to do it? I can see someone firing one up to retrieve an animal, but in most cases that is unnecessary also since most hunters are no more than a mile from a road.

I'm not sure about any of this, it seems like more stereotypical rumors than anything else. Towing an ATV from the city to hunt for a day? Please... And listen - my garage costs $375 a month and it excludes trailers of any kind. Umm... where are all these city ATVs hiding?

But what I can say from personal experience and the experience of my neighbors is that the locals around "us" (and I don't want to turn this into a blanket accusation) are a lot more prone to ignore posted signs on large tracts of private land because they've just "always" hunted there. And that tired story about "the old days" is also BS because there hasn't been one slice of genuine "unclaimed" land between 42nd Street and Mount Marcy since, say, the 1800s??

We caught poachers at night out of season last year and they were long time locals.
A retard is a retard no matter where he lives.

Agree 100%

I don't know where in NYC you live, but come on out to the Flushing, Whitestone, Bayside areas of Queens where people own their own homes with garages and you will see that many hunters also own ATV's that they haul up with them. Have you not seen the many trucks that haul them on the Thruway during hunting season? Many only go up for a few day. It doesn't make sense to me either, but they bring them up nonetheless.

Yeah, I was thinking about that... I'm in Manhattan, you're prob right.
I was gonna swing by Gander & solve that mystery of whether you can by a long gun w/NYC ID, but got caught up with the bow... tuning and tweaking for the opener. I might use the gun for turkey only, but we'll see.... You?