Do you have any idea how under-paid most PGC and DCNR employees are?Where do you get your information thata fee increase is needed to give employees a raise?Part of it is needed to fill all the vacant WCO positions.Some which are vacant because the WCO's left because they could make more money elsewhere.

There's a WCO in the district next to me that I'd like to see his salay doubled.This guy takesmuch of his own time and even his own money to put on habitat workshops that clearly illustrate why the PGC is doing what they're doing.Iasked him to speak to our sportsman's club a few years ago and he made the 45 minute trip at 9:00 pm to do so.That's dedication and I doubt he got paid over time.

That makes no sense.How could I be in his position?I'm simply stating that the guy earns every penney he makes.He's alsovery good at law enforcement which brings in alot of money in terms of fines.I'm willing to bet those fineshe generates from poachers and baiters more than covers his salary.

Where's your information that they need a lisence increase to give their present employees a raise.

I talk to plenty of people each day that are whining and crying about no deer.None of these people ever take the time to get out and actually talk to the professionals to see why things are the way they are.Most hunters have no clue what deer actually eat.They don't know the differance between preferred and non-preferred browse species.there's workshops all over this state that teach people what to look for and most of the nay-sayers refuse to go and learn.They see wide open woods with a blanket of ferns on the ground and expect to see 50 deer a day.That's not the way it should be.the PGC did exactly what needed to be done.I see less as a resuly myself but I still have no problems finding and killing deer on the same public land where hunters are crying about no deer.

You know what guys? I have to add another possibility here...

Maybe Lockhorns, Ledgend LS, Buffalo hunter, Ulysses or whatever else he calls himself these days has found a new name andway to get back on here. It's funny how easy it is to pick up a personality after just a few dozen posts.

So, should we start a pool??

Let me get this strait.You think it's normal and expected that hunters should se 50 deer a day?With that same comment,you say that's fine for the habitat.Am I reading you correctly?Because if I am,you certainly have no idea what so ever, about what you're talking about.

"the largest % of rank and file sportsmen"
??? 13,216 people does not constitute a majority. Nor does the suspect 40,000 number. most, if not all I've ever talked to, never even heard of the usp.

Uh, thats what this thread is about.

Maybe Lockhorns, Ledgend LS, Buffalo hunter, Ulysses or whatever else he calls himself these days has found a new name andway to get back on here. It's funny how easy it is to pick up a personality after just a few dozen posts.

So, should we start a pool??

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Well, there is an area known as Bailey Hill just south of Ulysses, PA. Used to be one of my favorite woodchuck-hunting spots, before someone built a "sportsman's resort" part way up the hill.

"A pool!" Yeah, and then the dang deer will come and cut the liner with their hooves.
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