A question for R.S.B.
08-15-2006 | 05:43 AM
#31
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From: Erie Co. PA
RE: A question for R.S.B.
ORIGINAL: trytan74
RSB you need to play the lotery since you must have the greatest luck in the world. Always being on the right channal to overhear rule volations by hunters.. Wow that must be some incredible odds of doing this or you carry a few dozen small radios with you?
RSB you need to play the lotery since you must have the greatest luck in the world. Always being on the right channal to overhear rule volations by hunters.. Wow that must be some incredible odds of doing this or you carry a few dozen small radios with you?
Also you state you check there firearms and ammos to see if they match a dead deer hidden somewhere they might of been shot wrongly or just lost wounded and lost but I find it funny how you come off sounding like you can look at a wound of a deer and tell the make, model,andCal. of the weapon used...lol Wow you are a super cop becuase other law enforcers must count on Labs to know if a gun shot came from a spicific weapon.. keep the EXCUSES coming they keep getting funner everytime I read them.
Trytan
Trytan
ChuckS
08-15-2006 | 07:17 AM
#32
Nontypical Buck
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RE: A question for R.S.B.
Deerfly,you know as well asI do that the PGC assigns the same deer density accross the whole state.You have less forested habitat so 5C gets a dd of 5-6 dpsm.I still agree with you about the way they assign those deer densities.I don't like the way they only consider forested area as habitat.
I used to have the stats for the harvest every year but I can't find them in my pile of junk.Regardless,the northcentral area of the state had most of the deer and the biggest harvests for a long,long time.
I used to have the stats for the harvest every year but I can't find them in my pile of junk.Regardless,the northcentral area of the state had most of the deer and the biggest harvests for a long,long time.
08-15-2006 | 07:56 AM
#33
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From: Jim Thorpe, PA
RE: A question for R.S.B.
ORIGINAL: Crazy Horse RVN
"RSB", that was a really good explanation of why Game wardens stop and check our licenses. The problem is, I DON'T BUY IT!
I can't tell you how many times I've been stopped with my 2 sons (when they were very young) and have been checked. NEVER ONCE have we been cited for any infraction.
When I ask (and I always ask) why were we stopped and checked and why they were interfering (for no just cause)with our huntI have ALWAYS been told that "It's my job", or "It's my duty to check you."
NEVER has a Game Warden said that he had been alerted of some offense being committed in the immediate area we were in.
"RSB", that was a really good explanation of why Game wardens stop and check our licenses. The problem is, I DON'T BUY IT!
I can't tell you how many times I've been stopped with my 2 sons (when they were very young) and have been checked. NEVER ONCE have we been cited for any infraction.
When I ask (and I always ask) why were we stopped and checked and why they were interfering (for no just cause)with our huntI have ALWAYS been told that "It's my job", or "It's my duty to check you."
NEVER has a Game Warden said that he had been alerted of some offense being committed in the immediate area we were in.
In 30 years of hunting I've only encountered one GW, and he was polite. And I have no problem letting them check my license if it means that'll help catch somebody illegal. Everybody moans about the poachers, but nobody wants to let them do their job.
Every year they hold SGL tours on, I think, SGL's 110, 105, or 106though I've never been to one. Usually in September I think.
08-15-2006 | 09:42 AM
#34
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RE: A question for R.S.B.
You may nothave a problem with being detained and searched without probable cause and treated like a criminal, but some of us are not as servile as you.
I wonder how far would you go with this: would you allow a strip search? A cavity search? After all, the WCO may have smelled m.j. and you are the first person he sees.
I wonder how far would you go with this: would you allow a strip search? A cavity search? After all, the WCO may have smelled m.j. and you are the first person he sees.
08-15-2006 | 09:44 AM
#35
Typical Buck
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RE: A question for R.S.B.
ORIGINAL: trytan74
RSB you need to play the lotery since you must have the greatest luck in the world. Always being on the right channal to overhear rule volations by hunters.. Wow that must be some incredible odds of doing this or you carry a few dozen small radios with you? Also you state you check there firearms and ammos to see if they match a dead deer hidden somewhere they might of been shot wrongly or just lost wounded and lost but I find it funny how you come off sounding like you can look at a wound of a deer and tell the make, model,andCal. of the weapon used...lol Wow you are a super cop becuase other law enforcers must count on Labs to know if a gun shot came from a spicific weapon.. keep the EXCUSES coming they keep getting funner everytime I read them.
Trytan
RSB you need to play the lotery since you must have the greatest luck in the world. Always being on the right channal to overhear rule volations by hunters.. Wow that must be some incredible odds of doing this or you carry a few dozen small radios with you? Also you state you check there firearms and ammos to see if they match a dead deer hidden somewhere they might of been shot wrongly or just lost wounded and lost but I find it funny how you come off sounding like you can look at a wound of a deer and tell the make, model,andCal. of the weapon used...lol Wow you are a super cop becuase other law enforcers must count on Labs to know if a gun shot came from a spicific weapon.. keep the EXCUSES coming they keep getting funner everytime I read them.
Trytan
I also never said anything about determining what caliber was used by looking at the wound. I said we will check firearms or ammunition to see if it matches the evidence already recovered. I have also found evidence from the wounds that has lead to the suspect firearms and person involved though so don’t think we can’t make any determinations from the wounds.
I guess you aren’t much of an investigator though. That is actually another one of the reasons some people think we are violating their rights, they just can’t get it into their heads that we will arrest them based on an evidence we develop through an investigation. A lot of people seem to think they can only be convicted of the crime if you actually catch them in the act of committing the crime.
By the way how many years ago was it that you found the deer bones? Which house was it behind, the one on the left or the one on the right as you go back the road? I was in there looking around a bit the other day but didn’t find bones yet.
Dick Bodenhorn
WCO, Elk County
08-15-2006 | 11:56 AM
#36
Fork Horn
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From: East Liverpool, OH,
RE: A question for R.S.B.
It was lastOct. andthere was piles behind both houses. The people living in those 2 houses are brothers is what I was told. It would actually be the 2nd house on the left side the 1 with the long driveway not the one beside the small apple orchard. Behind the house past the junk piles down the trail about 100 yrd or less then off the right of the trail about 30-40yrd. I do not know if they are still there now I haven't been in there since I first found it becuase I do not have primission to be on that property as I stated before I found it first time when I got lost and happened to find that trail and followed it up out.
Trytan
Trytan
08-15-2006 | 12:19 PM
#37
Nontypical Buck
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From: Pittsburgh, PA
RE: A question for R.S.B.
I am going to have to agree with Mike. I do not really care if they spend 5 minutes of my time checking my lisence and asking me questions if it helps them catch poachers and law breakers- I am glad to help. I've only ever encountered a game warden once, the man was very polite and didn't harass me in the slightest. A dozen people sitting on the internet and complaining about a handful of bad experiences hardly constitutes that the PGC is employing "SUPER COPS".
08-15-2006 | 01:52 PM
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RE: A question for R.S.B.
A pile of deer bones means nothing andI would bet that no case of any kind could be made from it. The guy could maybe like to butcher his own deer or maybe he processes deer for friends and relatives. It is not uncommon for a group of hunting buddies to congregate at one guy's house and butcher their deer together for the camraderie of it. Does he have to prove his innocence or is the burden of proof on the GC? Maybe the scales of justice work backward at the GC. The bones only prove one thing....the deer died.