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Old 06-14-2006 | 08:04 PM
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doug, i was reading in paper. mr.hanna state rep said,i am frustrated with the pgc commissioners and their continuing DISREGARD for hunter input.the MAT report from internatinal ass. of fish/wildlife agencies.they said that pgc has lots wrong with it.,in particular,the manner in which the pgc plans and BUDGETS.it said in report that pgc was to get a plan in 1998.without a PLAN,the pgc would simply go from budget year to budget year,spending on PROGRAMS that were currently popular with staff and which may or may not be tied to their wildlife responsibilities.pgc wrote a PLAN but did not follow it.sooooooooooo, the pgc has NO PLAN and wants a increase in fees etc.why should they get it without a PLAN.hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.p.s, pgc is now spending money on BARN OWLS,oh my, whats next.
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Old 06-15-2006 | 05:31 AM
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Andisn't the guy who wrote the stragetic plannow the Executive Director? One has to ask, since the author of the plan is now seated in the lofty executive position why has not the plan been put into play?
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Old 06-15-2006 | 06:06 AM
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Recently, State Representative Mike Hanna issued a statement that demonstrates his " disturbing disregard " for the Pennsylvania Game Commission> ' s legislated wildlife management mission.

Created as an independent state agency in 1895, the Pennsylvania Game Commission is responsible for managing all 465 species of wild birds and mammals and preserving the state's rich hunting and trapping heritage. Also, the agency has acquired 1.4 million acres of State Game Lands to serve as wildlife habitats and areas for public hunting and trapping, hiking and other wildlife related activities.

Unfortunately, in framing his decision to not support a license fee increase, Rep. Hanna has based his decision on his support for one side of the ongoing deer debate. While listening to those who want higher deer populations despite all other factors, he has seemingly ignored comments from foresters, farmers, biologists, hunters and others that the agency has a legal obligation to do what it can to balance the deer herd in terms of the three goals of the agency> '> s deer program: improve habitat health, deer health and reduce deer-human conflicts. He obviously hasn> '> t received any of the public testimony provided before two recent meetings of the House Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee from those who are demanding additional relief from excessive deer damage to their property, their crops and their livelihoods.

Rep. Hanna also cites the recent Legislative Budget and Finance Committee reports to support his claim that there is something "wrong " with the Game Commission, and that the Game Commission has yet to implement its strategic plan. Yet, Rep. Hanna completely misses the basis premise of the LBFC reports, which is that without a more stable stream of funding, the Game Commission has been rendered fiscally incapable of implementing its strategic plan. The LBFC clearly states:" In fairness to the PGC, it is very challenging to implement such as plan when the agency's resources are being reduced. Because it has been necessary to maintain many programs at a minimum level, it is difficult to accomplish various objectives established in the Strategic Plan."

Also, the LBFC said:" The PGC' s current Executive Director has, however, expressed a strong commitment to the current plan and the strategic planning process."

The LBFC also notes: " While the PGC has continued to experience problems in operationalizing its Strategic Plan, the agency' s financial condition represents its most significant near-term challenge. Despite expenditure cuts and ongoing cost-containment measures, the Commission is in need of a substantial revenue augmentation in order to stem the decline in the Game Fund balance and avoid further reductions in programs, services and staff. "

Had Rep. Hanna, a member of the House Game and Fisheries Committee, been able to attend the recent LBFC presentation to the committee, he would have heard Executive Director Roe state the following:"Our attempt to integrate the strategic plan into our budget has not been as successful as we would have hoped due to our limited resources. For FY 2005-06 we built a zero-based budget based on the strategic plan. As I recall, that budget came to around $81 to $83 million dollars. We had to reduce that budget to around $68 million."

What does all this mean? It means that we still are accomplishing many of the objectives of the current strategic plan without adequate funding. To fully implement our strategic plan, the > agency will need an increase in its current revenues. Ensuring that the Game Commission is adequately funded is not within our authority; that power rests with the Legislature.

As a three-bill package has been introduced to initiate the discussion on increased funding, we are disappointed to find Rep. Hanna opposed to these measures. His continued opposition to increasing the agency' s revenues merely creates a Catch-22 situation.

Also, Rep. Hanna dredges up a report from almost a decade ago in another attempt to discredit the agency. We believe that if you compare the Game Commission and its focus today to the one that the MAT report describes, he would see that we are miles ahead of making substitutive changes to the agency' s functions, culture and programs.

Finally, I'd like to say to Rep. Hanna, if he has positive solutions or suggestions, we'd be happy to sit down and talk with him.

Jerry Feaser, Press Secretary, Pennsylvania Game Commission
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Old 06-15-2006 | 06:08 AM
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It's funny how every sportsman organzation was vocal in that they did not want a merger with DCNR even after the financial study showed a 5 million dollar savings but do not want to pony up for a license increase. Seems pretty hypocritical.
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Old 06-15-2006 | 07:06 AM
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Deerfly,because we had to brutal back to back winters in 2003 and 2004.If you've ever been to some of these areas,you'd see that most guys won't walk up and down several long,steep ravines to drag a doe out.If the deer herd is as low as many are claiming and as low as the FLIR showed,who's killing all the deer?The hunter movement study showed that few hunters venture far from the roads in that particular area.I hunt areas about an hour north from where I live and the terrain is similar.I never go more than a mile from the nearest road and I never hunt an area whereI have to drag a deer up one side of a mountain and down the other.I'll take a long steep hike in the morning but I laways make sure it's a downhill drag.Still,I rarely if ever see another hunter back that far and it would be possible to go much deeper.The hunters are not controlling the deer in this situation.there were always alot more deer in these areas prior to 2003 and then the herd crashed.there's no other plausible explanation.

T,you beat me to it.Jerry Feaser does a good job of rebutting Hanna's ridiculous remarks.
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Old 06-15-2006 | 07:20 AM
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Deerfly,I still agree with the majority of you views,especially those that pertain to the eastern side of the state.One criticism I've always had is the way the PGCassigns the same dd goal of 21 dpfsm accross the entire state.I think that's unnessesary.However,we have a unique situation in the northcentral part of the state.We had a huge herd for decades and the habitat has changed decreasing the current carrying capacity.As a result,the forests are suffering and so are all the animals that rely on a healthy ecosystem.We needed less deer and that's exactly what we got.Around here we would have had less deer with or without the bullets flying.The situation needs to be fixed and hunters need to be patient and quit blaming everyone else and quitcoming up with stupid conspiracy theories.Things will get better.I'm seeing it already.No one isusing this to get anyone's guns and no one wants all the deer dead.We need to fix the habitat for the deer's sake.It just boggles my mind that hunters refuse to look at the facts and see this for themselves.
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Old 06-15-2006 | 07:24 AM
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Sproulman,The PGC is responsible for the management of all wildlife species.Do some investigating reporting and find out if the PGC is funding that research all by themselves or if they got a grant from another organization.Get your facts strait before you start making wild accusations.Do you think they funded the Elk program all by themselves?
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Old 06-15-2006 | 07:32 AM
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Crazyhorse,the invite is always open.We can hunt deer this year for the first time at 70 dpsm or we can do a remote backcountry hunt on public land.Either way you'll still see plenty of deer.Pick your poison and we can find out who's theone blowing smoke.

Germain,I've been telling you to look me up for two years now.It would be my pleasure to show you some good places within a short drive from your camp.I'm pretty sure your buddy Chris is gonna rent a cabin just up the road from me this fall.

I've always been open about every place where I hunt and I have no problems showing anyone.I hunt and scout year round and like to hunt new spots each year.The mission of putting anew plan together is what's fun.I have no problems showing anyone any of these places.
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Old 06-15-2006 | 08:34 AM
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ORIGINAL: DougE

...Get your facts strait before you start making wild accusations....
I'm always amazed at the misinformation that is spewed on these boards.[:'(]


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Old 06-15-2006 | 09:21 AM
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Chuck,if you're the Chuck I'm thinking,you have an open invite as well.I doubt we'll have 120 certified residents so guests are welcome.Shoot me a pm if you're interested.You were at the one pellet count and browse impact survey we had atTreasure lake,correct?If so,how bad is the habitat at 70 dpsm?How much preferred browse is there other than landscaping?
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