THE LAZY PEOPLE ( OUTFITTERS )
03-15-2007 | 11:51 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: THE LAZY PEOPLE ( OUTFITTERS )
Here in Ohio, some hunting friends and I are going to start a website and do a petition signing. We would like to have a limit ( by county ) put on out of state tags, and also try to get the " Earn a Buck " established, where you have to shoot and tag a doe before you can harvest a buck. Our thoughts being, if you limit the number of out of state tags by county, then you will limit the number of clients an outfitter can have, thus limiting their income, and their ability to lease more land. Also, most out of state hunters only have a week or so to hunt, if they have to tag a doe before they can harvest a buck, it may put a damper on their decision to pay all that money and likely not have time to kill a buck. Just our thoughts. We think it will be worth a try. Besides, the only thing we have to lose now is our hunting ground!
03-15-2007 | 03:56 PM
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Excalibur43: I would be all for an Earn a Buck type program. The way the insurance companies and the Farm Bureau scream about how we (in Ohio) have too many deer, they should be all for that. It just floors me that some hunters would rather shoot a spindly yearling buck over a mature doe just so they can say they got their buck.[:'(]
03-16-2007 | 02:48 PM
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A man has all the rights to his property ,I don't want the goverment, the outfitters,or my niebor ,or any one else telling mewho can and cann't hunt on my property.Now if it's federal property ,it belongs to every one of us. Who disagrees with that?
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03-16-2007 | 04:24 PM
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Well folks,this sounds like the same ignorant crap that is going on in my county. I'm a rowcrop farmer andmy family has hunted our farms most of our lives. My operation was growing (renting more land to farm)and when I got a new property I asked the owner for the right to hunt also. After, aquiring several neighboring farms over the years, which 90% of them weren't hardly ever hunted by anyone and the one that did was leased by a well know hunting club, I decided to start outfitting. I went and told the landowners what I was doing and theythought it was a great idea especially since I was hunting it forfree and now I would be leasing the ground from them (a seperate hunting lease plus crop lease). Supplemental income doing what I love. Working in the outdoors and talkin huntin. BUT!! a friend of mine told me before I started that there would be several in the community that would "run me down" "badmouth me" and give me the ol' evil eye. Thought yea whatever, WRONG. The ground that I have to hunt wasn't even "taken away" from anyone else! But yet, since I put out the effort and came up with the idea to start a new business which doesnt even affect any other hunters in the county, I get this crap from a few redneck, jealous, lazy, can't get up the ambition to do something different, idiots. I think most of it is jealousy. They are stuck with a factory job or just a job in general that they hateand would love to do what I do. I am sorry boys thats just the way the cards have fallen.And I don't mean that egotistically either. They have the power to do something different if they are not happy.TIMES ARE CHANGING and if you are wanting to get your hands on or keep your hunting ground you had better get ready to fork over the money. It almost seems like these people think that its a sin to get paid to have someone come in and hunt his own property. Have I become an outdoor extortionist? Darn right. I'm extorting the ground by raising a crop and takin money for it and I'm extorting the hunting by selling a hunt. Get over it. Sorry so long.............just had to vent.
03-17-2007 | 09:59 AM
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WELL I SEE I SEE THERE AREALOT OF US THATFEEL THE SAME AND SOME DONT.WELL FOR THOSE THAT DONT I JUST WANT SO SAY THAT YOU ALL ARE WRONG.ONE OF YA,LL SAID SOMETHIN ABOUT GOIN TO PUBLIC LAND AND HUNT.HAHAHA YOU TRY AND FIND PUBLIC LAND AROUND HERE TO HUNT. WHAT PUBLIC LAND ROUND HERE IS DRAW ONLY AND IN COUNTIES THATYOU CANT HARDLY DRAW A PEMIT IN BECAUSE OF ALL THE OTHER GUYS TRYING TO HUNT CAUSE OF THE LAND THAT THEY LOST.HERE IN McDOUNGH COUNTY THERE IS ONLY ONE PLUBLIC HUNTING LAND AND YOU WOULD NEVER DRAW FOR THERE PERIOD.
BUT ANYWAYS I AM JUST SICK OF LOSEING EVERYTHING TO THE HIGH PRICED OUTFITTERS.THE LAST 80 ARCE PIECE OF LAND I HAD SOLD BECAUSE THE FARMER PASTED AWAY AND BEFORE I KNEW THE LAND WAS GOING TO BE SOLD A OUTFITTER SETTED IN AND BOUGHT IT NOTEVEN A MONTH AFTER HE DIED.
SO I STILL STAND BY WHAT I CALL ALL YOU OUTFITTERS THAT ARE OUT THEREYA'LL ARE THE SNEAKIEST AND LAZIES PEOPLE IN THE WORLD..
BUT ANYWAYS I AM JUST SICK OF LOSEING EVERYTHING TO THE HIGH PRICED OUTFITTERS.THE LAST 80 ARCE PIECE OF LAND I HAD SOLD BECAUSE THE FARMER PASTED AWAY AND BEFORE I KNEW THE LAND WAS GOING TO BE SOLD A OUTFITTER SETTED IN AND BOUGHT IT NOTEVEN A MONTH AFTER HE DIED.
SO I STILL STAND BY WHAT I CALL ALL YOU OUTFITTERS THAT ARE OUT THEREYA'LL ARE THE SNEAKIEST AND LAZIES PEOPLE IN THE WORLD..
03-17-2007 | 10:16 AM
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ORIGINAL: JohnnyLonghorns
First of all, there is public land you can hunt. Second, the only person you should be calling lazy is yourself. If you don't like it, then buy your own land which you shouldn't have any trouble doing if you are working 12 hours a day 6 days a week. If you're working that much and still can't afford to buy ground then you are a total dumbsh*t.
Outfitters may take "your" land away, but they pay huge dividends to the area. 1. The tourism they bring to West Central IL is huge. Without their business, local restaurants, hotels, and others couldn't survive. Just look at the Archery Shop in Pittsfield. A beautiful 3,000 sq. ft. building that would never be there if it weren't for outfitters coming into the area. 2. Without outfitters, the land management for deer would be terrible. Areas where deer were once starving now have food available year round. It also helps decrease the amount of crop damage deer cause to a farmer'scrop. 3.Farmers who once had little to no income from the timber areas on their farm are now seeing increased revenue.
Rather than complaining about "The Lazy People", maybeyou should think twice about what exactly outfitters do for this region and not what they do for you.
EVERYTHING HAS BEEN GREAT AROUND HERE FOR YEARS.THE OUT OF STATE HUNTERS THAT COME HERE DONT SOME TO SIGHT SEE ANYTHING AROUND HERE THEY COME TO HUNT.. DUHHHHH..
I DONT BLAME THE FARMER FOR TRING TO MAKE A LIVING EITHER.
ITS JUST YOU LAZY SOBs THAT ONLY WANT MORE LAND TO MAKE YOUR FAST BUCK ON.
AND YES I DO WORK AND WHEN YOUR TRING TO RAISE A FAMILY ON WHAT INCOME THERE IS AROUND HERE THEN THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN BUY LAND AT PRICES HERE..DUHHH...
SO HERES TO ALL YOU OUTFITTERS..GET A REAL JOB.....
ORIGINAL: JohnnyLonghorns
First of all, there is public land you can hunt. Second, the only person you should be calling lazy is yourself. If you don't like it, then buy your own land which you shouldn't have any trouble doing if you are working 12 hours a day 6 days a week. If you're working that much and still can't afford to buy ground then you are a total dumbsh*t.
Outfitters may take "your" land away, but they pay huge dividends to the area. 1. The tourism they bring to West Central IL is huge. Without their business, local restaurants, hotels, and others couldn't survive. Just look at the Archery Shop in Pittsfield. A beautiful 3,000 sq. ft. building that would never be there if it weren't for outfitters coming into the area. 2. Without outfitters, the land management for deer would be terrible. Areas where deer were once starving now have food available year round. It also helps decrease the amount of crop damage deer cause to a farmer'scrop. 3.Farmers who once had little to no income from the timber areas on their farm are now seeing increased revenue.
Rather than complaining about "The Lazy People", maybeyou should think twice about what exactly outfitters do for this region and not what they do for you.
EVERYTHING HAS BEEN GREAT AROUND HERE FOR YEARS.THE OUT OF STATE HUNTERS THAT COME HERE DONT SOME TO SIGHT SEE ANYTHING AROUND HERE THEY COME TO HUNT.. DUHHHHH..
I DONT BLAME THE FARMER FOR TRING TO MAKE A LIVING EITHER.
ITS JUST YOU LAZY SOBs THAT ONLY WANT MORE LAND TO MAKE YOUR FAST BUCK ON.
AND YES I DO WORK AND WHEN YOUR TRING TO RAISE A FAMILY ON WHAT INCOME THERE IS AROUND HERE THEN THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN BUY LAND AT PRICES HERE..DUHHH...
SO HERES TO ALL YOU OUTFITTERS..GET A REAL JOB.....
03-17-2007 | 10:58 AM
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ORIGINAL: farmboy125
Well folks,this sounds like the same ignorant crap that is going on in my county. I'm a rowcrop farmer andmy family has hunted our farms most of our lives. My operation was growing (renting more land to farm)and when I got a new property I asked the owner for the right to hunt also. After, aquiring several neighboring farms over the years, which 90% of them weren't hardly ever hunted by anyone and the one that did was leased by a well know hunting club, I decided to start outfitting. I went and told the landowners what I was doing and theythought it was a great idea especially since I was hunting it forfree and now I would be leasing the ground from them (a seperate hunting lease plus crop lease). Supplemental income doing what I love. Working in the outdoors and talkin huntin. BUT!! a friend of mine told me before I started that there would be several in the community that would "run me down" "badmouth me" and give me the ol' evil eye. Thought yea whatever, WRONG. The ground that I have to hunt wasn't even "taken away" from anyone else! But yet, since I put out the effort and came up with the idea to start a new business which doesnt even affect any other hunters in the county, I get this crap from a few redneck, jealous, lazy, can't get up the ambition to do something different, idiots. I think most of it is jealousy. They are stuck with a factory job or just a job in general that they hateand would love to do what I do. I am sorry boys thats just the way the cards have fallen.And I don't mean that egotistically either. They have the power to do something different if they are not happy.TIMES ARE CHANGING and if you are wanting to get your hands on or keep your hunting ground you had better get ready to fork over the money. It almost seems like these people think that its a sin to get paid to have someone come in and hunt his own property. Have I become an outdoor extortionist? Darn right. I'm extorting the ground by raising a crop and takin money for it and I'm extorting the hunting by selling a hunt. Get over it. Sorry so long.............just had to vent.
Well folks,this sounds like the same ignorant crap that is going on in my county. I'm a rowcrop farmer andmy family has hunted our farms most of our lives. My operation was growing (renting more land to farm)and when I got a new property I asked the owner for the right to hunt also. After, aquiring several neighboring farms over the years, which 90% of them weren't hardly ever hunted by anyone and the one that did was leased by a well know hunting club, I decided to start outfitting. I went and told the landowners what I was doing and theythought it was a great idea especially since I was hunting it forfree and now I would be leasing the ground from them (a seperate hunting lease plus crop lease). Supplemental income doing what I love. Working in the outdoors and talkin huntin. BUT!! a friend of mine told me before I started that there would be several in the community that would "run me down" "badmouth me" and give me the ol' evil eye. Thought yea whatever, WRONG. The ground that I have to hunt wasn't even "taken away" from anyone else! But yet, since I put out the effort and came up with the idea to start a new business which doesnt even affect any other hunters in the county, I get this crap from a few redneck, jealous, lazy, can't get up the ambition to do something different, idiots. I think most of it is jealousy. They are stuck with a factory job or just a job in general that they hateand would love to do what I do. I am sorry boys thats just the way the cards have fallen.And I don't mean that egotistically either. They have the power to do something different if they are not happy.TIMES ARE CHANGING and if you are wanting to get your hands on or keep your hunting ground you had better get ready to fork over the money. It almost seems like these people think that its a sin to get paid to have someone come in and hunt his own property. Have I become an outdoor extortionist? Darn right. I'm extorting the ground by raising a crop and takin money for it and I'm extorting the hunting by selling a hunt. Get over it. Sorry so long.............just had to vent.
03-17-2007 | 01:45 PM
#49
Nontypical Buck
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From: Licking County, Ohio
RE: THE LAZY PEOPLE ( OUTFITTERS )
I think that most farmers who lease their land to outfitters, must not have any idea what kind of money that outfitter is charging people to hunt. They lease their land for $10-15. an acre, and the outfitter is charging out of staters $1500.00 plus to hunt there for a week. If the farmers knew they could make that kind of money, I don't think there would be too many outfitters in business. But that does bring up an interesting thought, along with our website, I think I will order flyers from these outfitters and send them,along with their price list to the farmers whose land they are leasing, since I am not lazy,and would love to work on cutting their lease ground out!
03-17-2007 | 03:13 PM
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Mabe instead of going to all this effort,sticking your nose into someone elses business,you could take up some sort of hobby.
ORIGINAL: excalibur43
I think that most farmers who lease their land to outfitters, must not have any idea what kind of money that outfitter is charging people to hunt. They lease their land for $10-15. an acre, and the outfitter is charging out of staters $1500.00 plus to hunt there for a week. If the farmers knew they could make that kind of money, I don't think there would be too many outfitters in business. But that does bring up an interesting thought, along with our website, I think I will order flyers from these outfitters and send them,along with their price list to the farmers whose land they are leasing, since I am not lazy,and would love to work on cutting their lease ground out!
I think that most farmers who lease their land to outfitters, must not have any idea what kind of money that outfitter is charging people to hunt. They lease their land for $10-15. an acre, and the outfitter is charging out of staters $1500.00 plus to hunt there for a week. If the farmers knew they could make that kind of money, I don't think there would be too many outfitters in business. But that does bring up an interesting thought, along with our website, I think I will order flyers from these outfitters and send them,along with their price list to the farmers whose land they are leasing, since I am not lazy,and would love to work on cutting their lease ground out!