Looking for Feedback on NM Outfitters
02-07-2021 | 07:07 PM
#11
Spike
Joined: Dec 2020
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Vince vigil New Mexico elk scam artist
I decided to try New Mexico Archery Elk and have several outfitters that I am trying to chose from. I plan to check out the references they provided but in addition, I want to get some independent feedback from you all.
Can anyone advise me if they know anything about the following outfitters?
1. Timberline Outfitters - Pery Hunsaker, Luna NM
2. New Mexico Hunting Adventures - Vince Vigil, Albuquerque
3. Milligan Brand - Ray Milligan, Chama NM
4. Blue Mountain Outfitters - Bob Atwood, Belen NM
Thanks ...
dr
Can anyone advise me if they know anything about the following outfitters?
1. Timberline Outfitters - Pery Hunsaker, Luna NM
2. New Mexico Hunting Adventures - Vince Vigil, Albuquerque
3. Milligan Brand - Ray Milligan, Chama NM
4. Blue Mountain Outfitters - Bob Atwood, Belen NM
Thanks ...
dr
09-15-2022 | 05:30 PM
#13
Spike
Joined: Sep 2021
Posts: 2
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Ray Milligan is a snake oil salesman...we went Sept 2022 and when we called Ray in 2021 and asked what was the best week...he gave us the 2nd week of September....when we got there ALL of his guides said they do not do very well the 2nd week and that Ray was just "trying to sell hunts." Ray is ALWAYS drunk walking through camp while bragging about how wealthy he is which is very annoying for the hunters to hear over and over. He said he has 100,000 acres to hunt and of the 4 spots we hunted 3 of them were tiny parcels with rancher fences dividing them. One of the neighboring ranchers actually drove his 4x4 50 yards from me while I was on an evening hunt sitting by a water hole..and did the same thing to another hunter. I texted my guide and he saw this happen through his binoculars and told me to get up and move to where another hunter was (mainly cause the parcel was so small there was not alot of areas for us to spread out.) Ray will falsify his success/opportunity rate and many hunters in camp witnessed him writing on his dry erase board that a hunter got a 4x3 elk when what he killed was a 1x1 spike. He does this so when other hunters come to camp they think there is high success when there is not. This unethical outfitter is only out for your money and could care less about how disgusting the camp is (flies all over the food, spiders and other bugs in the showers, filthy bedding. I feel bad for his staff as they ALL talk poorly about Ray when he is not around but because there are not a lot of jobs in Chama.....they are nice to his face. i would 100% save your money and not hunt with this lying outfitter
