Wounded Boar Charge
#31
Giant Nontypical
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From: Allegan, MI
"Now, if you look on this one you will note that the rear of the lower jaw is not that far from a brain/brain stem shot (ear) and just a little raise of the head right when you start to squeeze off you will hit that instead of a brain. http://boarmasters.com/wp-content/up...placement1.jpg"
I would call where you're talking about the far back hinge of the jaw and not the jaw itself. That is a big hard area and if you missed and hit that area he's still going to go down from shock to the spinal column and that would allow another shot before he could get out of Dodge. I've never shot one more than one time and every one went down, but all were in very controlled circumstances compared to your style of hunting them on the ground in big numbers. I'm a long way from your numbers because they were always an incidental animal to what I was down in Texas to hunt and I've only shot one down there in about the last ten years on a turkey/hog combo hunt to get my Dad out one last time a few years ago before he died. Anyway, we're on the same page in that I was deer hunting when I shot all the hogs I have, so mine was not done on the ground looking for them and wanting to wack as many as I could like in your scenario. When you're up in the air in an enclosed blind hogs are pretty easy to shoot like I have done if you just wait for the right opportunity. If it didn't come it was no big deal when the quarry was actually a big whitetail buck down there, so I was pretty choosey on what I shot in the hog department. I know one thing and that is I never had to change my drawers because none were going to charge me while I was up in one of those Texas towers, LOL!
I would call where you're talking about the far back hinge of the jaw and not the jaw itself. That is a big hard area and if you missed and hit that area he's still going to go down from shock to the spinal column and that would allow another shot before he could get out of Dodge. I've never shot one more than one time and every one went down, but all were in very controlled circumstances compared to your style of hunting them on the ground in big numbers. I'm a long way from your numbers because they were always an incidental animal to what I was down in Texas to hunt and I've only shot one down there in about the last ten years on a turkey/hog combo hunt to get my Dad out one last time a few years ago before he died. Anyway, we're on the same page in that I was deer hunting when I shot all the hogs I have, so mine was not done on the ground looking for them and wanting to wack as many as I could like in your scenario. When you're up in the air in an enclosed blind hogs are pretty easy to shoot like I have done if you just wait for the right opportunity. If it didn't come it was no big deal when the quarry was actually a big whitetail buck down there, so I was pretty choosey on what I shot in the hog department. I know one thing and that is I never had to change my drawers because none were going to charge me while I was up in one of those Texas towers, LOL!
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#33
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Sometimes the hunter is in the way and the animal is going to clear a path one way or the other. That in itself does not negate the fact that it's a charge. You are trying to say that a "charge" is an actual attack when in fact, most "charges" are simply an animal clearing the escape route. There is a difference. Actual attacks are rare, you are correct in that fact but they do happen.
About 15 years ago I was in the thorn brush along the Limpopo River which is the border between South Africa, Zimbabwe and Botswana. We were hunting a herd of blue wildebeest and while in heavy brush got between a mating pair of white rhino. The brush was so thick we didn't even know they were there. The cow went straight away from us and the bull came straight at us. He finally veered off at about 10 or 12 steps. I was lined up on him with a 375 H&H and my buddy who was the PH was lined up on him with a 450 Rigby. Neither of us fired because dropping a rhino is a serious thing and the trophy fee alone can run over $50K so you don't want to shoot one just because it got a little close to you. While this was a little hairy, this simply wasn't a charge. The animal was merely going in the same direction his nose had been pointed when he got spooked. He had his head up and wasn't carrying it low to try and hook us with that front horn which is what a charging rhino does. So, he got to go back to his lady.
I had basically the same thing happen with lion in Cameroon too. Not charging, merely trying to get out of the area of perceived threat in a big hurry. 2 went one way and the 3rd came at us and flanked to the left when it realized we were there. Lion was on open license in Cameroon and I've kicked myself for not taking that cat for the cost of the trophy fee. But the past is the past. Bottom line, a charge is when an animal is going after the hunter to do damage to the hunter. A flight path is not a charge and I don't care if it is a hog, a rhino or a rabbit. Actual charges are very, very rare and this video is not a charge. That hog was in flight mode after a very poor first shot which looked to me like it was about 2 inches too low.
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#34
Superhunt, I have only killed 6 wild boars so far, like Topgun all were head shot from a stand with a good rest, the furtherest at 81 yards, all dropped in their tracks. I did spot and stalk for half a day one year and saw a bunch of hogs, or I should say parts of lots of hogs in the woods and could not get a shot I was comfortable with so I didn't shoot. However, we had a set of tripod shooting sticks, like they use in Africa and if I cold have taken a shot at a hog that gave me a head shot, I would have taken it, because those sticks were a solid rest. Maybe something for you to consider carrying with you.
#35
Oldtimer, sticks are great for single hog hunting. When hunting groups they kind of get in the way. I use sticks when Whitetail or Elk hunting when I still/stalk hunt.
Flags, a charge is when an animal intends to go in a direction to which you are blocking it's path and decides to go THROUGH you. PERIOD. I don't care if it's in Africa, Egypt, or Alabama. You have false charges from MANY animals including Brown Bear (been bluff charged several times by them) Elk and Moose in rut (needed a spare pair there too) and many more larger animals. What I consider a "charge" is when said animal KNOWS you are there and continues on the same path intending to go over,through you. And BTW, if you don't believe animals have "moods" then you are sorely mistaken. Especially when it comes to wild hogs. They are highly intelligent creatures and very given to moodiness.
And how many times does one have to AGREE with you on a subject before you get it? I have said 2 or 3 times now that this instance wasn't really a charge just a blind run!
Flags, a charge is when an animal intends to go in a direction to which you are blocking it's path and decides to go THROUGH you. PERIOD. I don't care if it's in Africa, Egypt, or Alabama. You have false charges from MANY animals including Brown Bear (been bluff charged several times by them) Elk and Moose in rut (needed a spare pair there too) and many more larger animals. What I consider a "charge" is when said animal KNOWS you are there and continues on the same path intending to go over,through you. And BTW, if you don't believe animals have "moods" then you are sorely mistaken. Especially when it comes to wild hogs. They are highly intelligent creatures and very given to moodiness.
And how many times does one have to AGREE with you on a subject before you get it? I have said 2 or 3 times now that this instance wasn't really a charge just a blind run!
#36
Wow, I get caught up in some family business and am AFK for a day and the thread blows up, LOL.
I have had hogs run by me numerous times, but none that were running away and turned around and ran toward me and then refined their route to actually running directly at me, covering more than 90 yards to do so. To me, that shows intent on the part of the hog. There were a lot of directions and places for that hog to run without changing directions and running directly at me.
Was the hog running blindly? No. First, hogs don't run blindly. They actually see fairly well and see better in low light than humans. The hog could see me. It was a bright enough moon for me to navigate to that food plot without using NV/thermal. The hog could hear me shooting as well.
So I am good with my opinion that it was a charge.
flags and a couple others disagree and they are welcome to their opinion. I have enjoyed reading the discussion. In the end, none of us are psychic and having any way of knowing the hog's true intent (flight, attack, or a combination).
I have had hogs run by me numerous times, but none that were running away and turned around and ran toward me and then refined their route to actually running directly at me, covering more than 90 yards to do so. To me, that shows intent on the part of the hog. There were a lot of directions and places for that hog to run without changing directions and running directly at me.
Was the hog running blindly? No. First, hogs don't run blindly. They actually see fairly well and see better in low light than humans. The hog could see me. It was a bright enough moon for me to navigate to that food plot without using NV/thermal. The hog could hear me shooting as well.
So I am good with my opinion that it was a charge.
flags and a couple others disagree and they are welcome to their opinion. I have enjoyed reading the discussion. In the end, none of us are psychic and having any way of knowing the hog's true intent (flight, attack, or a combination).
#37
Eh, Honestly DNS I think that hog just got turned by the few shots you got into him while on the run. And by "blind run" I just meant running on instinct not actual "blindness". But hey, you could be correct. I know if someone shot me in the jewels I would do my best to take his to the ever after with me
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#39
Last year in the next county a hog got cut up some by a farmer bush hogging. That same hog then seriously mauled some guy out on a nature walk. A Master Hunter, a Forester and a tracker with his dog, went after that hog. The Hog attacked the tracker and the tracker killed it with a knife. The Hunter and the Forester were afraid to shoot, thinking they might hit the tracker. The tracker was experienced (had been there and done that before) and had heavy leather pants on, so he didn't get chewed up much.
I'm not going to pretend to know what is going through a hogs mind, but this sure seemed like of some sort of revenge to me. Or maybe just a wounded Hog that turned mean as heck.
In the local area (maybe a 20 miles radius) 1-2 people a year get seriously mauled on average.
I'm not going to pretend to know what is going through a hogs mind, but this sure seemed like of some sort of revenge to me. Or maybe just a wounded Hog that turned mean as heck.
In the local area (maybe a 20 miles radius) 1-2 people a year get seriously mauled on average.
#40
Maybe their eyesight is the lesser of their senses, their noses and ears are maybe better, but they seem to see just fine in dark.


