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Old 01-14-2005 | 03:45 PM
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Sixth. constrictions in the bore or rough rifling... fire lap the bore... some say it doesn't work some swear by it. I've done it to a handgun and 2 rifles... in every instance i have AT LEAST cut the grouping in half. no bull, not making up stories, just what has happened from me from personal experience
I always respect people opinion but want to note my experience. But I ruined a barrel with that tubbs firelapping kit. Totally rounded off the rifling. Worst thing I ever did to a gun. My gunsmith and I borescoped it before and after. Yes it smoothed it some, smoothed the rifling off. So beware before attempting not everyone has great experence doing this.
 
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Old 01-14-2005 | 07:08 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions. I have had , and still have several Rem 700s. All of them have been fine shooters. This one does no better that 2.5 MOA with any of the factory loads I have tried. I bought it used or should I say stole it ($150). The previous owner did not take care of it. I found mud all in the barrel. Trigger felt like sand paper. My plans were to toy with it and try to get the groups a bit tighter.

I also have a 700 Mountain Rilfe LSS that I bought about a month ago. I have not had a chance to toy with it yet, I sure hope it's a shooter. That pencil thin barrel has me worried.

Maybe I'm just too picky. If a gun will not shoot 1 MOA I will not keep it ,or have it worked on until it does. I know a sub MOA is not required for big game hunting, but that's my standard. When I'm hunting, I don't want to look down at my gun and think to myself "Wow I settled for less".
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Old 01-14-2005 | 07:52 PM
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In have a lot of rifles and I too don't own one that will not group one inch with its best load. I have had a few exceptions to that rule. I have some short range guns like lever guns and such that need not group as tight because they will never be used past 150 yards. I have not had a Remington that would not group 2 inches out of the box except for the 788 in 308 that I had. It started out grouping 2-3 inches. It turned out to be a fine shooter as well after working on the pressure point. Good luck.
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Old 01-14-2005 | 09:10 PM
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jdreddish,
I understand exactly how you feel. I used to be an accuracy fanatic. I was never happy if a rifle would not put everything through 1 hole. Years later, especially when my eyes got worse, I realised that I was going a bit far with that. Since I have mellowed with age, I am relatively happy if I can be consistent from group to group - let alone sub MOA. I have always, for some reason, been very lucky with the rifles I've owned. As I said before, I've owned five Rem. 700's and every one has been a very good to great rifle. I have simplified my life lately and gotten rid of all except one rifle and one shotgun. My last and favorite rifle is a Rem. 700 ADL synthetic...the youth model (I wanted the 20" barrel)... that amazes me every time I shoot it. One of the cheapest rifles Remington sells. I have it set up as a "Scout rifle" right now - with a 2X handgun scope, mounted ahead of the receiver. I wanted to try this idea and make up a rifle that I could shoot with both eyes open (chronic eyestrain). I never shoot much beyond 150 yds anymore, so the short- range nature of this set-up didn't phase me. I must say that I am impressed with the rifle.
I have posted a target, from my last trip to the range. 100 metres, from an improvised rest, 31 rounds fired, 6" dia. bull, 3-4 shot groups. Several of the groups (which I checked after every other string) were .75" - 1.25". This with 7.62 NATO mil-surp ammo ! (I use this for practice.) I am amazed. Not at myself - for I am NOT much of a shot anymore - but the rifle. I credit the "both eyes open" technique - which can be done with the forward- mounted scope.
Anyway, enough about that. I thought a few people might find this interesting. Good luck with your "project" rifle - i hope it works out just as you would like.

Well, I haven't posted the target, after all. I get an "error uploading file to disk" message every time I try it. I'll try with another post.
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Old 01-14-2005 | 09:27 PM
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All of my Model 700's have shot good out of the box. The 300 RUM I think I went a bit overboard with. The 338 RUM had done at a local gunsmith with just the accurizing package and brake. The 7mm RUM SA had nothing done except trigger work. They all shot just the same.
I will say however that the 7mm had to be returned to the factory for a new barrel as when we had it at the gunsmiths he showed me missing rifling in the barrel.

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