bigcountry

But theres a bunch of people out there who wasn't looking exactly for gains with the WSM but short action calibers that perform as good or close to the long action cousins.

Porintree

I agree with oldelkhunter... a 25 WSM would have been a great cartridge. I may have someday purchased a 25 WSM... but a 25 WSSM will never be on my gun rack.

GTBuzz

I would be interested to see actual chronograph results. Winchester claims the .25 WSSM will match .25-06 ballistics with 115g bullets. I just don't see how the smaller case can hang with an '06 based case full of RL22.

8mm/06

What would be the shortest barrel length from which you could get the full potential of the 25 WSSM? If it was reasonably short, it might have merit in a hand cannon....just wondering

bigcountry

You know 8mm this is a topic that we rarely discuss but has serious merit. I don't know the answer. I do see alot of guys that have 20" 338win mags, and gets great performance with >200gr bullets. But the 338 RUM will start degrading quick with less barrel length than a 26".

I would like to have me a handy elk rifle in a 338win mag with a 20" barrel.

USMC PMI

If I am correct the idea of short fat cartridges evolved from the bench rest shooting folks. In that game they will pay top dollar for a slight improvement or advantage so there must be some slight gain, not sure how much, what, or why. I sit watching and hope my beloved 270 Win never goes away but on the same note I don't hold a grudge toward the 270 WSM even if the performance gain is marginal. If nothing else this marketing hype has convinced more people to buy new rifles and ammo helping the entire shooting community. Good, bad, take it at face value and do what you like with it. No sense in getting defensive about your favorite cartridge and attempt to shoot down the new one. Some folks may not like the price of the WSSM rifle (more $ than standard calibers right now) and the ammo. Or they may not like the short subby little guy and opt for the traditional caliber. Don't get me wrong I like the 25-06 and own one, but it is not the most popular selling cartridge out there. This may draw attention to the caliber and help preserve the origional. I can also see the advantage of chambering the WSSM's in an AR based action with some modification, then maybe we would have something.

DougE

I bought a 300 wsm when they first came out.I don't know if it's any better than a standard 300 win mag but so far it's everything they talked it up to be.It's very accurate,easy to reload,easy on the shoulder for a lightweight rifle and just fun to play with.I think after components are more available and load data established,I'll pick up a 25 wssm.I think it would make a pretty slick little gun in the ultimate shadow.It may not exceed what a 25-05 will do but I bet it's right on it's heels.I wouldn't be surprised if barrel life will be better and accuracy improved all things being equal.The only thing that concerns me is potential feeding problems with such a short stubby case.I watches a guy shooting a 243 wssm last week and he claimed that it did have feeding problems on occassion.I think anything that generates renewed interest and increased gun sales is a positive thing.Even with that said,I've yet to find a better deer round for my purposes than the semi obsolete .308 shooting 165 gr Hornady fb bullets.While I reach for that gun more than any other,it would be boring if it was the only one in my safe.