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Old 12-30-2019, 05:37 PM
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After reading a lot of info on this cartridge I decided to try it out for myself. I didn't want it in a bolt action rifle so I did some searching and found an upper for my AR-15 on sale from deltateamtactical.com. Adding the "assembled" option for $15 my total was just over $200 for the complete upper. Then I found out that the standard .223/5.56 mags will not work without modification so I ordered a couple mags for it. Everything should be here by Friday. The model upper I got is called the Astral and has an 18" barrel. I would have sent the link but the 18" barrel is now out of stock. Will post pics when it arrives and is installed on my receiver.
I'm anticipating the PGC going to pass semi-auto rifles for big game soon. I just hope that when they do they limit mag capacity to 5 rounds. I think this would be a great combo for deer and black bear.
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Old 12-31-2019, 06:05 AM
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bronko i myself will also be looking to get my a 350 legend . i first kinda knocked this caliber as a kids gun but let me tell you something out here in ohio most gun shops are out selling the 350 legend to the 450 bushmaster right now by 4 to 1 . it's the fastest straightwall cartridge on the market & what i've seen & read it's got good knock down power. also bronko i ask jake to give you my phone# & give me a call at your convience . just to introduce myself to you about next yrs bear season in pa & also about your tc impact. i keep trying to send you p/m but it would'nt let me
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Old 01-01-2020, 08:34 PM
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I have two spite uppers planned for this summer. A 224 Valkyrie and a 350 Legend. Both have had some bad reamers making bad barrels out there which have pressed a lot of negativity around the forums and Facebook. The Legend gets a bad reputation for the fact folks have measured factory ammo to include .355-.356 bullets, instead of the .357 of the SAAMI spec. So folks assume the Legend is a 9mm. Ive installed two 350 Legend barrels so far, both have readily accepted reloaded .357 bullets, as designed. A friend has a Ruger American which will chamber reloads with .358 180 grain HotCors without sizing.

Personally, I think the .350 Legend is right where it should be for deer and hog hunting, everything the .450 Bushmaster really should have been.
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Old 01-06-2020, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Nomercy448 View Post
I have two “spite uppers” planned for this summer. A 224 Valkyrie and a 350 Legend. Both have had some bad reamers making bad barrels out there which have pressed a lot of negativity around the forums and Facebook. The Legend gets a bad reputation for the fact folks have measured factory ammo to include .355-.356” bullets, instead of the .357” of the SAAMI spec. So folks assume the Legend is a 9mm. I’ve installed two 350 Legend barrels so far, both have readily accepted reloaded .357” bullets, as designed. A friend has a Ruger American which will chamber reloads with .358” 180 grain HotCors without sizing.

Personally, I think the .350 Legend is right where it should be for deer and hog hunting, everything the .450 Bushmaster really should have been.
NoMercy I was (and still am) a bit concerned about shooting .358" bullets out of the Legend. And I don't want to shoot .357" pistol bullets out of it. My plan was to buy 180 grain Speer HorCor bullets @ .358" and size them down to .356". My thinking is that they will be tight enough to form a good seal and engage the rifling yet not too snug to create too high a pressure with SAAMI safe loads. Of course I will start low and increase charge weight until I see pressures then back off a bit. (or until I achieve satisfactory accuracy) Comments??
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Old 01-06-2020, 09:05 PM
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Info of value: SAAMI dimensional standards

Chamber neck diameter: 0.3789 +0.002
Cartridge neck diameter: 0.378 -0.008
Bullet Diameter: 0.357 -0.003

0.9 thou isnt much clearance, but enough. But a minimum spec 0.3789 chamber with 0.0378 case neck around a 0.357 bullet with 2 thou neck tension... 0.378-0.357+0.002 = 0.023, divide by two, thats 11.5 thou case neck thickness. If you buy brass with 12.5-13.5 thou wall thickness, you have to either ream/turn necks or size bullets.

Alternatively, a maximum spec chamber at 0.3809 less 0.0009 clearance, 0.380 cartridge neck, less .357 bullet plus 0.002 tension gives 12.5 thou case neck thickness. Still thin.

Sizing to the 180 HotCor to .356 would certainly chamber - only pulling it down to .357 should fit, but .356 absolutely should unless the barrel chamber is out of spec.
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Old 01-07-2020, 01:42 PM
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Its funny the way people pass laws, and industry always seems to work around them.
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Old 01-07-2020, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Cub Slayer View Post
Its funny the way people pass laws, and industry always seems to work around them.
Whats about the .350 Legend is working around a law?
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Old 01-07-2020, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Nomercy448 View Post


Whats about the .350 Legend is working around a law?
The 350 Legend was designed to work within the law not around it. It has turned out to be an excellent choice for areas where straight walled only cartridges are allowed. The 450 Bushmaster was a hit but the Legend works just as well without the recoil. Less energy yes, but more than sufficient.
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Old 01-07-2020, 02:00 PM
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Making a straight-walled cartridge specifically to comply with the hunting restriction but to perform differently than the existing options. Reminds me of the many slug shogun innovations, or the multi-headed showers to avoid shower head flow restriction laws.
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Old 01-07-2020, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bronko22000 View Post
The 350 Legend was designed to work within the law not around it. It has turned out to be an excellent choice for areas where straight walled only cartridges are allowed. The 450 Bushmaster was a hit but the Legend works just as well without the recoil. Less energy yes, but more than sufficient.
This is how I see it. Laws changed which recreated a market for straightwall cartridges, and with exceptionally limited modern options, bolt guns and ARs, the door was open for the .350 Legend. If you want a straightwall bolt gun in Ohio/Iowa/Indiana, what options are there? Leverguns are a dying breed, arguably dead in the youngest two generations of rifle buyers, single shots unpopular and also faltering in the recent market, so the 450 Bushmaster in a couple bolt guns and ARs was largely the singular option. Most of our straightwall cartridges are low pressure, rimmed cases, not setting the bar very high to supersede in a modern cartridge. The parameter was .357 and straightwall, with a few states requiring cases shorter than 1.8. We already have a 45cal in the mix, so a 44cal may not have been distinct enough to play, not much interest in 40 cals as a whole - especially in the current environment - so why not go hard and fast with a common bolt face and Mag boxes, pushing a 35 cal bullet?

I might wish theyd made more accommodation for conventional brass neck thickness around the specified bullet diameters, but once cheap barrel makers stop pitching out-of-spec chambers, the Legends going to keep doing very well.

Its not skirting any laws.
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