Surrender your firearms
11-03-2008, 08:40 PM
#51
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 493
RE: Surrender your firearms
SWThomas, I envy your dedication to your boss, but if you should ultimately find that your boss was indeed an Aribic Muslam that fooled the majority of the voters ( and I suspect that is the case) would you turn your weapon on American citizens trying to defend our constitutional rights?
That is the question on many american citizen's minds. And we know that anyone who has enough balls to take a stand against the government will be labeled a terrorist and marked for death.
I'm going to do my 1 little vote tomorrow, but I fear it's not going to be nearly enough to save our second amendment.
That is the question on many american citizen's minds. And we know that anyone who has enough balls to take a stand against the government will be labeled a terrorist and marked for death.
I'm going to do my 1 little vote tomorrow, but I fear it's not going to be nearly enough to save our second amendment.
11-03-2008, 11:52 PM
#52
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: central Ky
Posts: 2,867
RE: Surrender your firearms
That's what people said in other countries before laws went into effect too. Burying your head in sand just don't cut it-by the way,thanks for your service.
ORIGINAL: SWThomas
Well, considering the line of work I have chosen, I don't really have that luxury. Yes, I can vote and I do. I vote for the person with the best interest of the country in mind first, and then who is the best for the military because that affects me. Ultimately,the President is my boss and I have to obey his orders. Luckily, if he ordered all civilians to disarm, I wouldn't be part of it. It would be on Law Enforcement to accomplish that mission. As long as I'm in the military I'll always have weapons but I know it's not the same as the 2nd Ammendment. Hopefully it never comes to that, which I don't believe it ever will.
Originally Posted by Colorado Luckydog
So you were willing to die for other peoples rights but not your own? Go figure.
Don't get me wrong I have a family and I don't want to die either, but at some point youhave to be willing to fight for your rights. There may come a day when standing in a picket line isn't going to cut it! Taking our right to bear arms away is where I and a lot of others would draw the line in the sand.
Don't get me wrong I have a family and I don't want to die either, but at some point youhave to be willing to fight for your rights. There may come a day when standing in a picket line isn't going to cut it! Taking our right to bear arms away is where I and a lot of others would draw the line in the sand.
11-04-2008, 09:17 AM
#53
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Camp Lejeune, NC
Posts: 3,869
RE: Surrender your firearms
ORIGINAL: [email protected]
SWThomas, I envy your dedication to your boss, but if you should ultimately find that your boss was indeed an Aribic Muslam that fooled the majority of the voters ( and I suspect that is the case) would you turn your weapon on American citizens trying to defend our constitutional rights?
That is the question on many american citizen's minds. And we know that anyone who has enough balls to take a stand against the government will be labeled a terrorist and marked for death.
I'm going to do my 1 little vote tomorrow, but I fear it's not going to be nearly enough to save our second amendment.
SWThomas, I envy your dedication to your boss, but if you should ultimately find that your boss was indeed an Aribic Muslam that fooled the majority of the voters ( and I suspect that is the case) would you turn your weapon on American citizens trying to defend our constitutional rights?
That is the question on many american citizen's minds. And we know that anyone who has enough balls to take a stand against the government will be labeled a terrorist and marked for death.
I'm going to do my 1 little vote tomorrow, but I fear it's not going to be nearly enough to save our second amendment.
Second, how can the guy be a Muslim and a Christian at the same time? Either he's a radical Muslim... or... he's the guy that sat in Rev Wright's radical Christian church for 20 years. You can't have it both ways. Either way he's still a radical, but on only one denomination. Not both.
11-04-2008, 10:26 AM
#54
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: va USA
Posts: 580
RE: Surrender your firearms
ORIGINAL: [email protected]
SWThomas, I envy your dedication to your boss, but if you should ultimately find that your boss was indeed an Aribic Muslam that fooled the majority of the voters ( and I suspect that is the case) would you turn your weapon on American citizens trying to defend our constitutional rights?
That is the question on many american citizen's minds. And we know that anyone who has enough balls to take a stand against the government will be labeled a terrorist and marked for death.
I'm going to do my 1 little vote tomorrow, but I fear it's not going to be nearly enough to save our second amendment.
SWThomas, I envy your dedication to your boss, but if you should ultimately find that your boss was indeed an Aribic Muslam that fooled the majority of the voters ( and I suspect that is the case) would you turn your weapon on American citizens trying to defend our constitutional rights?
That is the question on many american citizen's minds. And we know that anyone who has enough balls to take a stand against the government will be labeled a terrorist and marked for death.
I'm going to do my 1 little vote tomorrow, but I fear it's not going to be nearly enough to save our second amendment.
Questioning the man's liberal viewpoint is one thing but questioning his patriotism is way out of bounds.
11-04-2008, 02:47 PM
#55
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: central Ky
Posts: 2,867
RE: Surrender your firearms
Popeye,just because someone is an american citizen DOESN'T mean they'll be good president material. The fact of the matter is that ALL his personal beliefs matter and are personal no more if that citizen is running for president. We SHOULD be concerned because he's a muslim FIRST (according to their faith),and american SECOND. The facts that he used koran to swear in senator's office instead of the bible should bother you. Also the fact that he don't honor the american flag,veterans,or the star bangled banner SHOULD bother everybody that enjoys/embraces our lifestyle and freedoms!
P S -I've "met" many non americans and for darn sure feel NO reason to convert.
P S -I've "met" many non americans and for darn sure feel NO reason to convert.
ORIGINAL: popeye
So what if he was an Arab-American Muslim. He is still an American citizen, born in Kansas for god's sake. Every bit as much of an American citizen as a white Bapist born in small town Georgia. All this hate and stupid bigotry based on stereotypes really pisses me off. Everytime I hear stuff like this it's always from someone who has never met either a Arab or even a Muslim for that matter..... it makes you sound like you have an IQ smaller than your show size.
Questioning the man's liberal viewpoint is one thing but questioning his patriotism is way out of bounds.
ORIGINAL: [email protected]
SWThomas, I envy your dedication to your boss, but if you should ultimately find that your boss was indeed an Aribic Muslam that fooled the majority of the voters ( and I suspect that is the case) would you turn your weapon on American citizens trying to defend our constitutional rights?
That is the question on many american citizen's minds. And we know that anyone who has enough balls to take a stand against the government will be labeled a terrorist and marked for death.
I'm going to do my 1 little vote tomorrow, but I fear it's not going to be nearly enough to save our second amendment.
SWThomas, I envy your dedication to your boss, but if you should ultimately find that your boss was indeed an Aribic Muslam that fooled the majority of the voters ( and I suspect that is the case) would you turn your weapon on American citizens trying to defend our constitutional rights?
That is the question on many american citizen's minds. And we know that anyone who has enough balls to take a stand against the government will be labeled a terrorist and marked for death.
I'm going to do my 1 little vote tomorrow, but I fear it's not going to be nearly enough to save our second amendment.
Questioning the man's liberal viewpoint is one thing but questioning his patriotism is way out of bounds.
11-04-2008, 08:45 PM
#56
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 493
RE: Surrender your firearms
popeye, I do hope more than you can know that my take on this man is wrong!
But if my fears are right you too will regret this day and what it bears for our great nation. But for now I'll just ask you to pray for me and a little bit for my country, for I'm willing to die for it!
But if my fears are right you too will regret this day and what it bears for our great nation. But for now I'll just ask you to pray for me and a little bit for my country, for I'm willing to die for it!
11-05-2008, 06:40 AM
#57
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: va USA
Posts: 580
RE: Surrender your firearms
Just a fewlast comments from me on this.
Obama is not Muslim, he's Christian so everyone's concern about that is unfounded. You can't infer someone's religious beliefs based on their name. However, even if he was, saying that you will not vote for someone based solely on religion is short sighted. IMO it's like saying you will not vote for someone because he's Catholic orProtestant or Jewish or Buddhist or whatever....it's just racism by another name.
Also, I think that questioning anyone's patriotism is off limits unless you have some real facts, not he said, she said stuff.
If there had been any real facts don't you think John McCain , the Republican Party or certainly Hillary(she's likes to play smear politics)would have brought it to light by now.
Like I said, disagree with Obama's policies or position on issues all you like. I don't agree with him onmost thingseither but using religious or patriotic smear tactics is a low class way of doing things.
Obama is not Muslim, he's Christian so everyone's concern about that is unfounded. You can't infer someone's religious beliefs based on their name. However, even if he was, saying that you will not vote for someone based solely on religion is short sighted. IMO it's like saying you will not vote for someone because he's Catholic orProtestant or Jewish or Buddhist or whatever....it's just racism by another name.
Also, I think that questioning anyone's patriotism is off limits unless you have some real facts, not he said, she said stuff.
If there had been any real facts don't you think John McCain , the Republican Party or certainly Hillary(she's likes to play smear politics)would have brought it to light by now.
Like I said, disagree with Obama's policies or position on issues all you like. I don't agree with him onmost thingseither but using religious or patriotic smear tactics is a low class way of doing things.
11-05-2008, 09:53 AM
#58
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: central Ky
Posts: 2,867
RE: Surrender your firearms
It's NOT "low class" when we question the intent of the man that's now the most powerful person in the "free" world. The facts of the matter is that he DON'T respect the flag,WON'T honor the pledge of allegience OR the star bangled banner! That SHOULD be everybody's concern.
11-05-2008, 11:51 AM
#59
Spike
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Upper Peninsula of Michigan
Posts: 52
RE: Surrender your firearms
It would be like prohibition if it ever did happen. Except in prohibition the only bad thing is that organized crime went up and alcholism was lowered alittle. If they tried to take away firearms the military would have one hell of a time trying to scronge up enough counter snipers to deal with one state let alone the entire union.
In france during WW2 there was a few resistant cells that rained hell on germans snipers, and officers alike.
All i am saying is that any educated person will never argue that they would ever try to take our firearms by force because of the loss of innocent life would be insainly high.
Will it be harder to get a gun and ammo in four years yes. Is that a problem, yes. Can we really change that now, NO.
All i can say is support our country the best you can. The second amendment was put in the constitution for this reason. To defend against all enemies foreign and domestic.
In france during WW2 there was a few resistant cells that rained hell on germans snipers, and officers alike.
All i am saying is that any educated person will never argue that they would ever try to take our firearms by force because of the loss of innocent life would be insainly high.
Will it be harder to get a gun and ammo in four years yes. Is that a problem, yes. Can we really change that now, NO.
All i can say is support our country the best you can. The second amendment was put in the constitution for this reason. To defend against all enemies foreign and domestic.
11-07-2008, 09:38 AM
#60
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Camp Lejeune, NC
Posts: 3,869
RE: Surrender your firearms
ORIGINAL: stalkingbear
Popeye,just because someone is an american citizen DOESN'T mean they'll be good president material. The fact of the matter is that ALL his personal beliefs matter and are personal no more if that citizen is running for president. We SHOULD be concerned because he's a muslim FIRST (according to their faith),and american SECOND. The facts that he used koran to swear in senator's office instead of the bible should bother you. Also the fact that he don't honor the american flag,veterans,or the star bangled banner SHOULD bother everybody that enjoys/embraces our lifestyle and freedoms!
P S -I've "met" many non americans and for darn sure feel NO reason to convert.
Popeye,just because someone is an american citizen DOESN'T mean they'll be good president material. The fact of the matter is that ALL his personal beliefs matter and are personal no more if that citizen is running for president. We SHOULD be concerned because he's a muslim FIRST (according to their faith),and american SECOND. The facts that he used koran to swear in senator's office instead of the bible should bother you. Also the fact that he don't honor the american flag,veterans,or the star bangled banner SHOULD bother everybody that enjoys/embraces our lifestyle and freedoms!
P S -I've "met" many non americans and for darn sure feel NO reason to convert.