9mm or .45
09-08-2008, 02:30 PM
#42
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 3,224
RE: 9mm or .45
If I'm going to shoot someone I want to make sure they are down and a .45 will drop them in their tracks. I've seen a guy get shot 3 times in the gut and get up and run away after being shot with a .38. Thte guy that shot him traded the gun in the next day and bought a .41 magnum. He said the next person he shots will stay down. If they are hopped up on drugs I want something that will really do some damage. Though personally I carry a sawed off 12 gauge riot gun loaded with #2 shot in my truck.
09-11-2008, 08:57 AM
#45
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: At LadySooner\'s side
Posts: 48
RE: 9mm or .45
ORIGINAL: Matt / PA
You civilians in this discussion get into firefights or shootouts on a regular basis or what?
LOL
If you ever have a need to actually use one of these things in a real world situation it isn't going to be from 15 yards away behind the barrier of your police cruiser door.
It's going to be somewhere where you will literally be a few FEET away from if not in actual contact with the person at the other end.
You won't be aiming, you won't be playing 3 gun competition, you will bePOINTING it at an in your face center of mass.
9mm vs. .45 is kind of a silly "my gun is bigger than your gun, stopping power this, accuracy that" argument when 9 times out of 10 if you need to pull the trigger it's going to be at point blank range and in a HURRY.
Use the gun you are most comfortable with, and the one you will actually shoot a lot, get used to the controls and carry.
If you buy a .45 and shoot it once a year because ammo is "too expensive" to practice then it's not doing you any good. If you shoot it alot and actually carry it then that's the one for you.
You simply need to be RELIABLE with the weapon you choose and be fluid with it if you are faced with a stressful situation.
9mm, .40, .45, .357, .38, .380, whatever.........just know what you are doing with the thing and shoot it alot. Self Defense isn't a game of sniper or target practice, it's a matter of knowing your gun.
I carry a 9mm with high end +P Corbon. I wouldn't want to get hit with it [:-], and I shoot the cheap stuff alot because WELL it's cheap and it allows me lots of face time with a gun I'd certainly like to be familiar with if I ever need to pull it.
I have handguns with much more stopping power than a 9mm yet if I had to choose just one for my body, or home defense it's the 9mm.
You civilians in this discussion get into firefights or shootouts on a regular basis or what?
LOL
If you ever have a need to actually use one of these things in a real world situation it isn't going to be from 15 yards away behind the barrier of your police cruiser door.
It's going to be somewhere where you will literally be a few FEET away from if not in actual contact with the person at the other end.
You won't be aiming, you won't be playing 3 gun competition, you will bePOINTING it at an in your face center of mass.
9mm vs. .45 is kind of a silly "my gun is bigger than your gun, stopping power this, accuracy that" argument when 9 times out of 10 if you need to pull the trigger it's going to be at point blank range and in a HURRY.
Use the gun you are most comfortable with, and the one you will actually shoot a lot, get used to the controls and carry.
If you buy a .45 and shoot it once a year because ammo is "too expensive" to practice then it's not doing you any good. If you shoot it alot and actually carry it then that's the one for you.
You simply need to be RELIABLE with the weapon you choose and be fluid with it if you are faced with a stressful situation.
9mm, .40, .45, .357, .38, .380, whatever.........just know what you are doing with the thing and shoot it alot. Self Defense isn't a game of sniper or target practice, it's a matter of knowing your gun.
I carry a 9mm with high end +P Corbon. I wouldn't want to get hit with it [:-], and I shoot the cheap stuff alot because WELL it's cheap and it allows me lots of face time with a gun I'd certainly like to be familiar with if I ever need to pull it.
I have handguns with much more stopping power than a 9mm yet if I had to choose just one for my body, or home defense it's the 9mm.
Shoot what you are comfortable with...shoot it a lot.
For me, I shoot 9mm Winchester cheap stuff out of my P229R at a rate of around 200 rounds a week. I carry my P229R as a 40 SW with 160 grain Corbon DPX. I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of that either.
09-11-2008, 06:42 PM
#46
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Farmington, Mo.
Posts: 1,223
RE: 9mm or .45
ORIGINAL: MadisonGuy
The case for the 9mm:
1. The 9mm is more accurate, so you more likely to hit your target;
2. The 9mm has less recoil, so your follow-up shots are faster; and
3. The 9mm will carry more rounds, so you can fire more rounds.
Those are three large tactical advantages over the .45. If you use hollow-point bullets there is plenty of stopping power and energy transfer to the target, so it is not wimpy.
-MG
The case for the 9mm:
1. The 9mm is more accurate, so you more likely to hit your target;
2. The 9mm has less recoil, so your follow-up shots are faster; and
3. The 9mm will carry more rounds, so you can fire more rounds.
Those are three large tactical advantages over the .45. If you use hollow-point bullets there is plenty of stopping power and energy transfer to the target, so it is not wimpy.
-MG
I respectfully disagree for if you load hollowpoints in a .45 you have far more stopping power than a 9mm.As far as capacity the Springfield XD .45 holds 14,Para-Ordanance makes a few models that hold 14 rds.As far as follow up shots I have no problem controling my .45 and sending follow ups downrange quickly and accurately.All in all if I have a choice it's .45 all the way.
