RECOIL ?
05-31-2008, 11:49 PM
#21
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Rivesville, WV
Posts: 3,192
RE: RECOIL ?
ORIGINAL: bigbulls
Since I am the only one that listed a percentage of recoilI will assume you are talking about my post. I will also assume that you didn't read the entire post. 
And didn't get to the end of that sentence or the next.
For some one to say that a 30-06 has a certain percentage of felt recoil, as compared to a 7-08, without taking into account all the felt recoil factors is just flat out wrong to do.
And didn't get to the end of that sentence or the next.
..........assuming they are fired out of the same rifle.... IE: both shot out of a Remington 700 CDL.
Wow, a bit touchy aren't we. If I was directing a remark toward you I would specify that. However I was not directing my remarks toward you..
I was trying to say exactly what I said. Their are too many factors that effect felt recoil, besides cartridge choice.
Your comment about the percentage difference is just one factor, as you pointed out. Tom.
06-01-2008, 05:05 AM
#23
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 290
RE: RECOIL ?
ORIGINAL: nyorange
30-06 in remington 700 is no problem off hand or while hunting. At the bench for extended range time I always use a extra shoulder mounted recoil pad for everything except 22 and 243 due to the angle of the gun when bench shooting. Also make sure you use good hearing protection. I use foam plugs under my ear muffs and together they kill almost all sound. I found that 3/4 of myrecoil problems turned out to be noise induced flinching. Once I started using both plugs and muffs my groups shrank tremendously.Hope it helps.
30-06 in remington 700 is no problem off hand or while hunting. At the bench for extended range time I always use a extra shoulder mounted recoil pad for everything except 22 and 243 due to the angle of the gun when bench shooting. Also make sure you use good hearing protection. I use foam plugs under my ear muffs and together they kill almost all sound. I found that 3/4 of myrecoil problems turned out to be noise induced flinching. Once I started using both plugs and muffs my groups shrank tremendously.Hope it helps.
Good luck.
06-01-2008, 09:53 PM
#24
Typical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Wide open Nevada
Posts: 515
RE: RECOIL ?
I'll tell you a long time ago my Dad bought me an 06' and I went to it from a 7x57 shooting the 139s to the 150 in the 06' . The 7x57 was a chopped Chilian Mauser the 06' a brand new Savage 110 and that Savage did me just plain wrong I was black and blue every time we went to the range . I guess it never occured to us to put a recoil pad on it . My shooting suffered for it and the 06' sat in the closet for ...... well a long time and I was young and dumb........... I shot the 6" group 7x57 instead of the 2" 06' because I didn't get beatup by the steel plate and could shoot a full box and then 20 -25 20 ga. on claysand only be spotty not bruised .
Suffice it to say that the 7x57 was a much lighter recoiling rifle perhaps a half a # heavier . With a good recoil pad and some wieght added for range duties your 7mm-08 could be as tame as any 22-250.
Suffice it to say that the 7x57 was a much lighter recoiling rifle perhaps a half a # heavier . With a good recoil pad and some wieght added for range duties your 7mm-08 could be as tame as any 22-250.
06-03-2008, 03:40 AM
#26
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RE: RECOIL ?
ORIGINAL: ipscshooter
I'm not sure the difference would be quite that dramatic. There's some good info here:
http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm
Lonewolf: If you want nice mild recoil in a rifle that packs enough punch for deer, the .243 Win. fits the bill perfectly. 1/3 less recoil than a 7mm-08, and, at least in my experience, performs just as well on deer as my now retired 30-06 used to...
ORIGINAL: bigbulls
A 30-06 firing a 165 grain bulletwill have about 70% more recoil than the 7mm-08 firing a 140 grain bullet assuming they are fired out of the same rifle.... IE: both shot out of a Remington 700 CDL.
A 30-06 firing a 165 grain bulletwill have about 70% more recoil than the 7mm-08 firing a 140 grain bullet assuming they are fired out of the same rifle.... IE: both shot out of a Remington 700 CDL.
http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm
Lonewolf: If you want nice mild recoil in a rifle that packs enough punch for deer, the .243 Win. fits the bill perfectly. 1/3 less recoil than a 7mm-08, and, at least in my experience, performs just as well on deer as my now retired 30-06 used to...
06-03-2008, 11:12 AM
#27
Typical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: SE Wisc
Posts: 677
RE: RECOIL ?
i have both a 30.06 M70 and a savage 7mm-08. I started hunting with the 7mm-08 due to tendenitis in my shoulders from lifting weights when i was younger. I recently put a recoil pad on my 30.06 and it made a night vs day difference. You may notice that the 7mm-08 has a sharper recoil but manageble. So much more that i hunt deer with my 7mm-08 all the time now. It has become my favorite caliber. My 30.06 will be used if i ever hunt bigger than deer.
06-03-2008, 11:35 AM
#28
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Body in SE WI, mind in U.P.
Posts: 4,781
RE: RECOIL ?
I would jump on the 7x57 mauser round again but H@R stop making that cal. some time back in the barrel add on program.I think I will send my action out on monday and have them fit the 7MM-08 to the action
7mm-08 is a good choice, 260 remington as good if not better (I prefer 6.5mms).
06-03-2008, 01:00 PM
#29
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Eastern PA
Posts: 12,746
RE: RECOIL ?
In similar rifles the difference in recoil between the '06 165gr and 7-08 139 gr is like night and day. The '06 will recoil noticably more. I've have neck surgery in '89 (C3&C4). Except for some arthritis, I have no problems. I shoot everything from .17s up to 375 H&Hand my MLs, 3 1/2" shotguns and I've even shot my cousin's 460 WM. My neck has stayed intact. (Can't say the same for my brains). Listen to your Dr. May be all you might need is time to heal and get back to business as usual.
