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#33
Giant Nontypical
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HEAD0001,
You are spot on with your post. I handload Nosler Partitions in every fast shooting (7mm-s.t.w, 7mm-r.u.m., 300-win mag & 340-weatherby) hunting rifle I own.
I do this because I want the bullet to stay together at close range. I use hornady & sierra bullets in all of my other rifles.
I have seen aSierra game king bullet fragment on impact at close range. The deer still died, but the front should looked like it got hit with a hand gernade.
You are spot on with your post. I handload Nosler Partitions in every fast shooting (7mm-s.t.w, 7mm-r.u.m., 300-win mag & 340-weatherby) hunting rifle I own.
I do this because I want the bullet to stay together at close range. I use hornady & sierra bullets in all of my other rifles.
I have seen aSierra game king bullet fragment on impact at close range. The deer still died, but the front should looked like it got hit with a hand gernade.
Partitions usually lose their frontend if bone is encountered or really thick skin(which deer don't have)...obviously the shrapnel scatters and destroys more tissue in that respect they are the worst of bullets that stay together but theystill work. The OP is claiming that regular cup and core bullets are all you need. I think for regular cartridges they are fine but in Hypervelocity cartridges they are prone to blowup especially if they hit bone..they will kill but destroy a lot of meat in the process, whereas a controlled expansion bullet will hold together and not destroy as much meat. The kill might not be animmediate bang flop but the results will still be a dead animal. All I can say is after hammering deer with all types of Magnums using both types of bullets that I got pretty disgusted finding deer with huge unncessary holes blown in their sides when using Factory cup and core bullets. 7 Rem mag with corelockts 7 WSM with powerpoints 300 wsm with powerpoints or silvertips 270 WSM with silvertips 300 weatherby mag with 180 hornday powerpoints. I won't use these type cartridges anymore on deer unless there is a controlled expansion bullet coming out of the bore.
#37
Nontypical Buck
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From: Baileysville, WV
Nah OEH... Miserable people are really persistent about trying to spread their mood. Perhaps if they can actually pass some of their misery and low self esteem by attempting to put others down it makes them feel just a little bit better about their own pathetic existence unless the other people just ignore them and see them for what they are. Wilds I feel sorry for you pal...maybe your life will improve sometime soon.
#38
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From: Taking the high ground.....
Typical armchair internet banter from those who've not been there muchnor done that, much.....kudos on preserving the stereotype.
Not seeing the obvious with eyes wide shutis your short coming, not mine.....tho' it bodessmack in your face.
Nothing miserable at all about knowing the difference...............................
Not seeing the obvious with eyes wide shutis your short coming, not mine.....tho' it bodessmack in your face.
Nothing miserable at all about knowing the difference...............................
#39
Joined: Jul 2007
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From: Taking the high ground.....
My antagonism (spelled correctly BTW)was directed towards the Dude who claimed he loaded partitions in hi velocity rounds because they would stay together.....
'Tis common knowledge that Partitions don't stay together.....'specially in Hi-Vel rounds.
We'd be on the same page, I'd figure............
'Tis common knowledge that Partitions don't stay together.....'specially in Hi-Vel rounds.
We'd be on the same page, I'd figure............
#40
Well, HEAD, I would not argue with you as you seem to have a solid basis in experience from which to speak! All I would say is that one should try to use properly constructed bullets for the task at hand-Soft, frangible, "varmint" bullets for small,lightly constructed targets like crows and groundhogs, etc., and tougher ones for the bigger game so penetration is adequate.
I think we can agree that the biggest, fastest, toughest bullet in the world is no good if it misses the target. Despite ol' Roy's claims to the contrary, even a Weatherby Magnum will not kill just from the effects of the wind from the bullet.
Nowadays, I load Nosler Partitions in all my hunting rifle calibers, even though I realize they are NOT NEEDED for light game (deer, caribou, etc., up to400 pounds or so).
I load them because they actually perform as they were designed to do-(unlike some of their competitors!!),hang togetherat high impact velocities AFTER the frontsection expands or even explodes, (YES, it is SUPPOSED to do that!!), but the rear sectionremains intact and continues to penetrate; AND, after a Nosler Partition bullet slows down at extended ranges, it still expands due to its' "soft front end". From my viewpoint, the bullet which does this best is the best of both worlds. A hunter cannot ask for anything more!
Despite losing their front sections, the Partition retains enough weight and structural integrity to go on through every animal I ever shot with one diring the last 50 years, except for two, which I recovered inside game after an UNBELIEVABLY LONG wound channel!
I think we can agree that the biggest, fastest, toughest bullet in the world is no good if it misses the target. Despite ol' Roy's claims to the contrary, even a Weatherby Magnum will not kill just from the effects of the wind from the bullet.
Nowadays, I load Nosler Partitions in all my hunting rifle calibers, even though I realize they are NOT NEEDED for light game (deer, caribou, etc., up to400 pounds or so).
I load them because they actually perform as they were designed to do-(unlike some of their competitors!!),hang togetherat high impact velocities AFTER the frontsection expands or even explodes, (YES, it is SUPPOSED to do that!!), but the rear sectionremains intact and continues to penetrate; AND, after a Nosler Partition bullet slows down at extended ranges, it still expands due to its' "soft front end". From my viewpoint, the bullet which does this best is the best of both worlds. A hunter cannot ask for anything more!
Despite losing their front sections, the Partition retains enough weight and structural integrity to go on through every animal I ever shot with one diring the last 50 years, except for two, which I recovered inside game after an UNBELIEVABLY LONG wound channel!



