whitetail_101

I think either one would do the job but if had to pick between the two it would be the 30-30. Little bigger caliber for bigger game like bear is always good.
Now in our house we would use either a 250 Savage, 270 or a 25-38 whick is a .40 to .41 calibor rifle.
Personally, I use a .243 rifle for deer and use nothing but balistic tips due to the fact it is fast more acurrate and drops em' better.

K&T's Hunting Farm
South East Texas

ButchA

There. That says it all.

Good God, people.... This thread has like 12,000+ hits on it and is 15 some odd pages!! [&:]

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30-30. Over 100 years and still going strong. ...'nuff said.

gonzodemon

I have hunted with a 243 for years I have taken wild hog boars in excess of 300 lbs with a well placed shot . In my opinion if a 243 will take out a big hog it will take out a black bear that being said I still would go with the 30/30 its just a safer bet on a dangerous animal I would also shoot the heaviest ammo available. But if you realy want an all around gun look at a 30/06 or a 308 with these two you can load up for large game or down for smaller game.

heeze gutshot shortee

ButchA..thanks for not making it longer....HA HA. safe hunts to ya !

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ButchA

Thanks...

The Buffalo Bills will eventually, someday, sometime in the future, win the big one!!!

Flying Ferris

Actually he's not. There not to much meat you need to fly a bullet through on a 'youte plus you don't want to ruin the pelt with 2 big .308 sized holes. Where as a bear you need at least 90% of the bullet to survive it's travel through the animal. So it's easier for a bullet to do just that at slower velocities and when it's bigger. Reading up on terminal ballistics may be in order eh' zrexpilot?

zrexpilot

LOL ! I never been told that here on this board. Most of the time I'm told to quit reading ballistics.
.243 vs 30-30
Hmmmm. .243 shoots a lot faster, a lot flatter, a lot farther, has more energy, retains 90% of it bullet weight, mushroom to almost 50% its normal size (.45 diameter) hasa better coefficiency, has a better sectional density. Hmmmmn.....no contest
.243 is better for deer , bear, elk, moose, bobcat, jaguar, coyote, wood chuck, ground hog, squirrel, crows, axis deer, fallow deer, black buck, antelope, mountain lion, big horn sheep,( takes a breath) seals, goats, pigs, javelina, rabbit, fox, or anything I have forgot.

James B

You forgot to mention that you just rattled off what is one mans opinion.. I would remove everything bigger than coyotes from the list. Just one more mans opinion.

Doe Dumper

Now James...quit agitating! I prefer the .577 Superwhizbangballbusterdeluxe magnum with the sps syndrome...errrr system!

Flying Ferris

Didn't you hear though .243 win is the end all be all of calibers. We don't need anything else.