well.......... I have a mossberg 835 that has a had a minimum of somewhere in the ball park of 1,000 3.5 inch steel shot mag loads from about 8 years of goose hunting about 30 3.5 inch turkey mags from the same amount of turkey seasons and somewhere in the ball park of 1,000 to 2,000 2 3/4 inch steel magnums from 8 years of duck hunting and 3,000 or so trap loads from squirrel, rabbit, dove, and quail hunting and the occasional trap session. the gun is still in perfect working condition never had to fix or replace anything except for the front bead sight it needed replaced after the gun fell about 30 feet down a bluff into a rocky creek. I think im gonnna stick with mossbergs for the rest of my life...........

Mossbergs are good guns. I am not knocking them.

I am not a Stoeger rep.

ICAN afford more expensive firearms. But I ask, why pay for a name? I don't have an EGO that makes me need to say I own this or that big name gun. I have friends with THOUSANDS of dollars wrapped up in Big Name guns and they still can't hit anything.

I just wanted to share a truely great find with this group.

Yes the barrel changes just like a pump gun. When you call Stoeger for parts, you will actually be calling Benelli USA. They'll give you a number to call for their parts dept. I checked on the price for a 24" in Timber HD. $145.00

Now for my responses to the negative remarks.
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Red,
If as you state that "Benelli, Franchi, Stoeger .." all are owned by Beretta, then why on earth when you call Stoeger do you get a recorded message saying "Welcome to Benelli USA"? Are you telling us that Benelli is a "STEALTH" company owned by Beretta? I've never heard of that. I could be wrong.

Worc,
Where do I state in my original post that the Benelli is the ONLY gun to use the Inertia system? I said that Benelli licenses THEIR SYSTEM to Stoeger.
I suspect you have used a Chronograph like Vapodog?
Who is Patrick Flanigan? Like Beretta owning all the gun manufacturers in the world, I've never heard of that one either.

Vapodog,
You state "I also think that business about 10% velocity loss is pure BS"

You Think? You Think? Well, I think the world is flat too!
Have you EVER used a Chronograph? You sound to me like you are willing to defend the indefencible and are using a purely emotional retort. Why are you so defensive?
Do this with Worc at your side..
Chronograph an 1100 gas auto, then an 870. You'll see. In some loadings I've chronographed MORE than a 10% loss.

I admit that I have NOT chrono'd all the new auto's. I'm quite sure that itISPOSSIBLE for a new mfgr.gas auto tolose less that 10%.

I'll need to chronograph my buddies new Beretta before I state that.

The simple fact is that aftera round is fired the system mustuse enough energy to force theaction back against the main spring. Thenthe empty is ejected, the hammer spring is cocked, a new round striped from the magazine and the round chambered.
For you to"THINK" that this takes only "Tenths" of fpsis laughable.

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I'm sorry that many of you spent three or four times as much as I did and got less. That is NOT my fault and "Thinking" this or that is not reality.

I did my homework.
Did you?
Did you just take some salesmansword for it.?

Nobody's pushing a Stoeger here, I could care less if you get one..

Bill

Threetoe, I can understand your excitement over the Stoeger 2000. Like I said it's a very good gun for the money. I would even pick this model over both a Remington 1100 and 11-87.
To answer some of your questions. Patrick Flanigan is a trick shooter who broke Tom Knapps record. You are the one who brought up Tom Knapps record (now old).
You state that Stoeger is the ONLY one using Benelli's revolutionary action system. Read your own post, It's on the thrid paragraph, first sentence.
A 10% loss in velocity is way off. Guns like the Browning Gold and Winchester SX2 only travel about 1/2" backwards to cycle the action. I will dig around to see if I can find a link for you that has the difference. You state you did a test between an 1100 and 870. You make no mention of barrel length between the two. There is a loss of 8-10 fps per inch of barrel length up to about 30". Are you saying that Inertia and Long Recoil operated semi auto's do not start to cycle (open bolt) before the shot has totaly left the barrel? To answer this you must supply high speed photos while the gun is being fired and cycling.
I never said that Beretta owned anyone in my post. Now that we are one the subject. Beretta owns Benelli, Franchi, Stoeger, Sako, Tikka, and some others. Benelli is also an importer, so they import forBenelli, Franchi, and Stoeger.
If you like your Stoeger, than I'm happy for you. I think it will be a good gun for many years to come as long as it's taken care of.

I will say that in the future if you want to call me out to the mat on semi auto shotguns. I would advise you to stay in your own weight division.

Talk to us when the Stoeger hashad 50,000 rounds thru it and it doesn't need a new reciever or two major overhauls on it's way. Then we can talk about a great value. The Stoeger might be a good value for the person that doesn't shot alot much like Mossbergs and the cheaper 870's.
You want value go to O/U in the 12-1600 range ,take care of it and 20 years and 200k+ rounds you can still hand it down to you grandkids. There 's not a auto on the market capable of reaching 75k before it's ready for the scrap heap.

Well, i think three toes deserves a round of apllause,he truly has found one of the best kept shotgun secrets. in opinion. my cousin got a stoeger, the 2000 model specificaly, he picked it up for close to 420.we went to theold quail spotwith it, and my dads b m1. To be honest i like the the stoeger just as good as the m1, its nice and light, handles well, and for the most part doesnt kick to bad. (i put a limbsaver on it any ways, not sure why i guess i put em on all my guns.)

I love my Stoeger 2000 and my Remington 870 3 1/2" Mag.......but, I wish I still had my Browning Gold trigger lite 12( old hump back)and my Winchester 101 20 over and under............

Uh-oh, I guess Benelli and Winchester are headed into a urinating contest over whose shotgun cycles the fastest.

Read an article somewhere that the difference between a couple of the shotguns was around 1/10th of a second over the course of emptying the magazine (I would guess 5+ shots). So what the @#% does it matter? Unless, of course, you're a "pray and spray" type hunter.

And Threetoe...lighten up a bit. You did mention in your original post that Stoeger was the ONLY company licensed to use Benelli's inertia system. I was gonna pounce on you for that since my brand-spanking-new Franchi I-12 has it. But Worc beat me to it.

And visit Benelli's web site . You'll notice at the bottom there are links for Stoeger and Franchi. Worc's not pulling your chain, Stoeger, Franchi and Benelli are all owned by Beretta.

Enjoy your M2000. I know I'm going to enjoy my I-12.

And spend some time in the outhouse.....you're just full of ******

I can't believe a few guys here are gonna end up trashin a good topic??

I'm not sure what all the huff is about. I own a Benelli (with over 1K rounds thru it) and shoot with a friend who shoots a Stoeger. Both guns seem to operate perfectly. I also own several O/U's, 11-87's and 1100's. I will almost always grab the Benelli for several reasons. I like the lighter recoil for one and the gun just feels good. I think the argument of 150k-200k rounds may not be reasonable. IMHO, the 'average' shotgunner will be lucky if he ever puts even 5K rounds down the tube. Over the years shooting competitive skeet, I've put tens of thousands of rounds thru 1100's, and with the exception of the occational gas ring, have never had a failure. To each his own. Would I buy a Stoeger to shoot competitively, probably not. But if the choice was between the Stoger and that cheap Charles Daly in WalMart,I'd have the Stoeger in the safe.