Well, i think three toes deserves a round of apllause,he truly has found one of the best kept shotgun secrets. in opinion. my cousin got a stoeger, the 2000 model specificaly, he picked it up for close to 420.we went to theold quail spotwith it, and my dads b m1. To be honest i like the the stoeger just as good as the m1, its nice and light, handles well, and for the most part doesnt kick to bad. (i put a limbsaver on it any ways, not sure why i guess i put em on all my guns.)