A little update. I got some time to make a back drop for my target so if i miss i wont mess up another arrow.
So with that done I start shooting. After 2 hours of shooting one arrow at a time. I have found with my set up The added weight of the lumenok is the problem. a carbon strike mx arrow with the slick's and NO lumenok did very good from 25 to 30. I then try the same arrow set up but with the lumenok at 25 yards it dropped 2inches and was 4 inches to the right. I did this same shoot 10 times each time It hit in the same area.

This was a practice shoot at 5 yards and it didn't pass threw.

here is another pic.

I'd do a problems solving sequence like this, starting form most likely to least.
1. Make sure all your bow screw/bolts are tight, cams in time, no cracks in limbs.
While I'm at it check sights to make sure they are tight.
2. Cock the bow with a string cocker, to make sure bowsting is centered.
3.. Determine FOC. If less than 15 add weight to the front until it's at least 18 to 20%.



Washer trick is a new one for me. No comment.