Might be very repetative, but I need some climber advice!
03-25-2005 | 09:16 AM
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RE: Might be very repetative, but I need some climber advice!
Ive used every model loggy bayou they have made. And the newest one with some minor "improvements" is the best yet.
Im only interested in bowhunting really, so thats why I chose the loggy. Its an open front stand, with a seat that folds up out of the way as you stand. Once up the tree and with the seat in the up position, it is practically WELDED to the tree. Sets up and climbs VERY easily.
It can be used as a climber or a lock-on, so thats a plus. However, I dont recommend the loggy climbing aid. Its too noisey. With the older loggies, you can "bear-hug" the tree to climb. But the new one grips too well, and requires too much effort. Because of this, I got a summit climbing aid. I just have an old one, but the new summit clearshot climbing aid would work as well.
Thats another good stand from what Ive heard. The summit clearshot is very much like a loggy bayou.
Take a look at those two stands. They are bowhunter friendly stands.
There are other bowhunter friendly stands out there as well, but I dont know much about them.
Good luck choosing, and when you do get it, make SURE you ALWAYS wear a safety harness!---Matt
Im only interested in bowhunting really, so thats why I chose the loggy. Its an open front stand, with a seat that folds up out of the way as you stand. Once up the tree and with the seat in the up position, it is practically WELDED to the tree. Sets up and climbs VERY easily.
It can be used as a climber or a lock-on, so thats a plus. However, I dont recommend the loggy climbing aid. Its too noisey. With the older loggies, you can "bear-hug" the tree to climb. But the new one grips too well, and requires too much effort. Because of this, I got a summit climbing aid. I just have an old one, but the new summit clearshot climbing aid would work as well.
Thats another good stand from what Ive heard. The summit clearshot is very much like a loggy bayou.
Take a look at those two stands. They are bowhunter friendly stands.
There are other bowhunter friendly stands out there as well, but I dont know much about them.
Good luck choosing, and when you do get it, make SURE you ALWAYS wear a safety harness!---Matt
03-25-2005 | 09:50 AM
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RE: Might be very repetative, but I need some climber advice!
The Ol' Man is great. It's got the most comfortable seat of any stand I've ever used. Trust me, that's important.
It's easy to set-up and takedown. I wouldn't recomend it but I've even adjusted it while up the tree. It's that easy to use.
The only problem I've ever had is that it can't handle very small or very large trees. It's not a big deal but every now and then it matters. I'd just like a small bit of extra flexibility.
It's easy to set-up and takedown. I wouldn't recomend it but I've even adjusted it while up the tree. It's that easy to use.
The only problem I've ever had is that it can't handle very small or very large trees. It's not a big deal but every now and then it matters. I'd just like a small bit of extra flexibility.
03-25-2005 | 02:59 PM
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RE: Might be very repetative, but I need some climber advice!
But the new one grips too well, and requires too much effort.
03-25-2005 | 03:16 PM
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RE: Might be very repetative, but I need some climber advice!
Mine said it would come with the rubber or metal, but it just has metal teeth welded in place. No rubber came with it.
I think it would be easier to do with the rubber strips in the back. But I hadnt used a loggy with a big heavy seat before either. SO that could be another reason I couldnt use it to bear hug.
I have an '89, '93ish, and '95ish loggy bayou. I can bear hug the tree with all of them. But the new one with the teeth and the bigger MUCH COMFIER seat is too hard.
I can do it, but there is too much effort involved.
Do you have the new XLT? Did yours come with rubber strips to cover the teeth?
I know when I ordered it, it said it was going to have the teeth and the rubber, but it didnt, so I just forgot about it.
Did I get jipped?
Heres a list of changes I made to the new Loggy XLT;
I HATED the new strap they put on there! Took it off, I use the old cam-over buckle now. MUCH quieter!
Didnt like the thin backpack straps, so I bought padded ones.
Dipped the end of the climbing cable in rubber dip, this quieted the slight clanking it made in the frame when climbing or setting up.
I hooked my bow rope directly through the little hole for the gun rest, and added a zipper pouch to the side of the platform. I store the rest of the rolled up bow rope in that. Along with other small treestand necessities.
I use an old summit hand climber. I didnt order a new loggy climbing aid, but it looks the same as the two old ones I have, and they are worthlessly LOUD. Hence the bear-hugging!
I also plan on gluing some bass boat carpet down onto the platform to quiet and insulate my feet. Rubber boots tend to squeak on a metal platform. I use it on my other stands and its GREAT!
Hope some of those tips can help you!---Matt
I think it would be easier to do with the rubber strips in the back. But I hadnt used a loggy with a big heavy seat before either. SO that could be another reason I couldnt use it to bear hug.
I have an '89, '93ish, and '95ish loggy bayou. I can bear hug the tree with all of them. But the new one with the teeth and the bigger MUCH COMFIER seat is too hard.
I can do it, but there is too much effort involved.
Do you have the new XLT? Did yours come with rubber strips to cover the teeth?
I know when I ordered it, it said it was going to have the teeth and the rubber, but it didnt, so I just forgot about it.
Did I get jipped?
Heres a list of changes I made to the new Loggy XLT;
I HATED the new strap they put on there! Took it off, I use the old cam-over buckle now. MUCH quieter!
Didnt like the thin backpack straps, so I bought padded ones.
Dipped the end of the climbing cable in rubber dip, this quieted the slight clanking it made in the frame when climbing or setting up.
I hooked my bow rope directly through the little hole for the gun rest, and added a zipper pouch to the side of the platform. I store the rest of the rolled up bow rope in that. Along with other small treestand necessities.
I use an old summit hand climber. I didnt order a new loggy climbing aid, but it looks the same as the two old ones I have, and they are worthlessly LOUD. Hence the bear-hugging!
I also plan on gluing some bass boat carpet down onto the platform to quiet and insulate my feet. Rubber boots tend to squeak on a metal platform. I use it on my other stands and its GREAT!
Hope some of those tips can help you!---Matt
03-25-2005 | 04:05 PM
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RE: Might be very repetative, but I need some climber advice!
ORIGINAL: Mattiac
Mine said it would come with the rubber or metal, but it just has metal teeth welded in place. No rubber came with it.
I think it would be easier to do with the rubber strips in the back. But I hadnt used a loggy with a big heavy seat before either. SO that could be another reason I couldnt use it to bear hug.
I have an '89, '93ish, and '95ish loggy bayou. I can bear hug the tree with all of them. But the new one with the teeth and the bigger MUCH COMFIER seat is too hard.
I can do it, but there is too much effort involved.
Do you have the new XLT? Did yours come with rubber strips to cover the teeth?
I know when I ordered it, it said it was going to have the teeth and the rubber, but it didnt, so I just forgot about it.
Did I get jipped?
Heres a list of changes I made to the new Loggy XLT;
I HATED the new strap they put on there! Took it off, I use the old cam-over buckle now. MUCH quieter!
Didnt like the thin backpack straps, so I bought padded ones.
Dipped the end of the climbing cable in rubber dip, this quieted the slight clanking it made in the frame when climbing or setting up.
I hooked my bow rope directly through the little hole for the gun rest, and added a zipper pouch to the side of the platform. I store the rest of the rolled up bow rope in that. Along with other small treestand necessities.
I use an old summit hand climber. I didnt order a new loggy climbing aid, but it looks the same as the two old ones I have, and they are worthlessly LOUD. Hence the bear-hugging!
I also plan on gluing some bass boat carpet down onto the platform to quiet and insulate my feet. Rubber boots tend to squeak on a metal platform. I use it on my other stands and its GREAT!
Hope some of those tips can help you!---Matt
Mine said it would come with the rubber or metal, but it just has metal teeth welded in place. No rubber came with it.
I think it would be easier to do with the rubber strips in the back. But I hadnt used a loggy with a big heavy seat before either. SO that could be another reason I couldnt use it to bear hug.
I have an '89, '93ish, and '95ish loggy bayou. I can bear hug the tree with all of them. But the new one with the teeth and the bigger MUCH COMFIER seat is too hard.
I can do it, but there is too much effort involved.
Do you have the new XLT? Did yours come with rubber strips to cover the teeth?
I know when I ordered it, it said it was going to have the teeth and the rubber, but it didnt, so I just forgot about it.
Did I get jipped?
Heres a list of changes I made to the new Loggy XLT;
I HATED the new strap they put on there! Took it off, I use the old cam-over buckle now. MUCH quieter!
Didnt like the thin backpack straps, so I bought padded ones.
Dipped the end of the climbing cable in rubber dip, this quieted the slight clanking it made in the frame when climbing or setting up.
I hooked my bow rope directly through the little hole for the gun rest, and added a zipper pouch to the side of the platform. I store the rest of the rolled up bow rope in that. Along with other small treestand necessities.
I use an old summit hand climber. I didnt order a new loggy climbing aid, but it looks the same as the two old ones I have, and they are worthlessly LOUD. Hence the bear-hugging!
I also plan on gluing some bass boat carpet down onto the platform to quiet and insulate my feet. Rubber boots tend to squeak on a metal platform. I use it on my other stands and its GREAT!
Hope some of those tips can help you!---Matt
From my origonal, I hated the J-hook and prefer the strap. I know about the noise thing but have been able to work through it. I had the choice of rubber or metal and choose the rubber. I could do without the big cushy seat. I prefer the old basic straps. The carpet sounds like a winner sometimes. Also always remember to bring a couple of screw in steps incase you have to clear a lower obstical before you can climb the perfect tree.
To quiet the climb made by the climbing band I just run my bow rope through the bottom holes that stick out and trie it off on the end. I've gotten it pretty quiet if you think climbing less then 70 yards from two 130 class bucks without spooking them.
03-27-2005 | 06:39 PM
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Typical Buck
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RE: Might be very repetative, but I need some climber advice!
ORIGINAL: zak123
I bought a Summit Viper XLS, and I love it. The front bar does not get in the way during a shot. I feel more comfortable with the front bar. I posted a post on this board about how good Summit stands were and they sent me a hat, a hunting video, and a catalog. Summit is a great company and you can't go wrong with them.
I bought a Summit Viper XLS, and I love it. The front bar does not get in the way during a shot. I feel more comfortable with the front bar. I posted a post on this board about how good Summit stands were and they sent me a hat, a hunting video, and a catalog. Summit is a great company and you can't go wrong with them.
I bought the Viper when it made its debut. I imagine mine has to be nearly 7 years old now. Like Zach, I prefer the front bar. I enjoy the comfort of having the bar when climbing for a seat, and posistion the top section low when I reach my desired height, which allows me to shoot unobstructed both seated and standing.
Another plus while standing to shoot is that you can edge out to brace your leg on the bar. No need to look down to determine if you're getting close to the edge of the platform is a big plus for me. It really shines if you need to turn for an ackward shot, allowing you a very steady stance at an otherwise less than steady position.
The Viper is spacious, unlike some of the taco sized lock-on's I've been in over the years. It also holds my weight, (205 pounds), without so much as a creek, even in crooked trees. When and if this one wears out, which I doubt, I'll be getting another Summit product.
03-27-2005 | 06:47 PM
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RE: Might be very repetative, but I need some climber advice!
I really appreciate all of your replys. I guess one more question that I have is....has anyone had any experience with a few different Summits and the Lone Wolf climbers? How would you rate one against the other for all of the reasons I mentioned?
Thanks
Thanks
03-27-2005 | 07:16 PM
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Typical Buck
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RE: Might be very repetative, but I need some climber advice!
One of my close bow hunting buddies had a Lone Wolf Climber. I emphasize had, in that it was stolen out of the bed of his truck. He liked it, however it didn't do anything for me. The platform looked like it was a foundry product, putting me in mind of pressed powdered metal. I didn't care much for the attachments bands either, but that's just me. I tried it, it worked, to each his own I guess.
