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burniegoeasily 04-06-2005 03:18 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily


ORIGINAL: Double Creek

What's really amazing is that 3 guys have kept this thing going for 85 freaking pages!!!!



I'm a hard headed SOB and I don't care if they start putting plutonium 238 on the ends of arrows, I want bowseason to be bowseason. No p@$$^ @$$ xbows, no draw locks, no arm rests, etc. and I'll never be convinced otherwise.
Most of my posts here have been in fun, but this kinda bothers me. What about the poor guys who cant draw a bow. I know people who like to bow hunt but can no longer draw a bow due to age or injury. We have a beloved member on this sight who has to use one. Are you saying they have to wait until gun season because they are now less a hunter? Now that is a nice kick in the balls there for ya.
What, no responses. NO justification as to why others should not be allowed to enjoy "bow" hunting with a disability?

Double Creek 04-06-2005 03:18 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

Because Little Johnny should learn that there are rules and laws that govern hunting .. and he must wait till the proper season to use a specific weapon. So when Little Johhnny sees that big buck at 100 yards opening morning, and asks his Dad can he bring the rifle tomorrow to get him.. .Dad needs to sit little Johnny down and explain how it works.

I agree 100%

Double Creek 04-06-2005 03:19 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 
Burnie, go back, I responded several pages ago


quote:


Most of my posts here have been in fun, but this kinda bothers me. What about the poor guys who cant draw a bow. I know people who like to bow hunt but can no longer draw a bow due to age or injury. We have a beloved member on this sight who has to use one. Are you saying they have to wait until gun season because they are now less a hunter? Now that is a nice kick in the balls there for ya.
I thought it went without saying that the guy that can no longer use a bow should be able to hunt with an xbow during archery season. That is already legal in most states, including mine.

Double Creek 04-06-2005 03:20 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

Little Johnny

Isn't he the same prick who kept raising his hand in school? :D

MA Jay 04-06-2005 03:23 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 
No.. he's the kid Suzy Rotten Crotch goes with.....

datamax 04-06-2005 03:25 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

You 3 are something... you have won 1 person over, and strengthened the anti-crossbow resolve of dozens.
the seeds of reason have been planted and after all, 90 pages and I still haven't seen a single negative to allowing crossbows


They are not allowed now, for lots of very good reasons,
ok, time top stop lying. I mean, really - there ARE NO GOOD REASONS to not allow crossbows. None. nada. zip. they don't exist

At best, compounds, they are bow-like, but they aren't the same .. so they get lumped outside with the rest of the non-archery gear.

Can that not be said and have some truth to it ? After all, compounds are nothing really like recurve/longbows at all, are they ? They aren't drawn the same, they don't have the same way to generate the energy to propel the arrow, one has high let off, the other no letoff, compounds have sights, multiple cables, cams/pulleys - they are bowlike but NOT bows !

WE agree on that - right ?

silentassassin 04-06-2005 03:26 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

You 3 are something... you have won 1 person over, and strengthened the anti-crossbow resolve of dozens.
Well actually two. I think we recruited adams into the ranks while we were at it. But anyway you slice it that's two more than we had before we started and if they convince two a piece and they convince two a piece then we may just have a regular "Pay it Forward" on our hands;)


Guys, the argument is fundamentally flawed
I agree your argument is fundemenatlly flawed but you fought the good fight anyway:eek:


You can't fight (and win) the trend of tightening restrictions on compounds AND get crossbows into archery season.
You certainly can't if you don't fight it;) But i don't want to tightened the restrictions on compounds I just want some other folks to have a chance to be in the woods during archery season;)


They are not allowed now, for lots of very good reasons, and while you have filled many pages with why crossbows are like compounds, you haven't yet magicly transformed it into one.. so it leaves you where you started basicly.
I must have missed the reasons and apparently you must have missed the reasons that I listed why they should be allowed. But I don't think you did you just chose to ignore them. But I am not trying to transform them anyway. i agree there is a difference in the way shoot them but ultimately it's insignificant and there performance is nearly identical to that of a compound so for no more difference than there is and since you already told us very few people want to shoot them so that eliminates the worry of you loosing any time from your season I don't see why I should want to keep little johnny out of the woods.


Not snub our nose at them, or think they are bad or evil .. just laugh at them for trying to pretend to be something they are not.
That's right you set little Johnny straight on what it means to be a man:eek:


At best they are bow-like, but they aren't the same
A pistol is not the same as a rifle either but they are typically allowed in the same season so I guess I missed the point.

silentassassin 04-06-2005 03:27 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

Silent.. you are just a bitter man.
I am bitter because I want other people to get a chance to enjoy the archery season. I guess I failed to see the logic behind that one:eek:

BigJ71 04-06-2005 03:28 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

Like I said, I started out with a long bow and then a recurve........sorry but too hard and I just don't have the time needed to become good enough to hunt with it. I like to shoot them and still do, but only for fun. No I will keep my crossbow. It has served me well and I happen to like all of the bells and whistles that they come with.


why isn't that a valid reason to allow crossbows ?
Data,

I think there are many people who think the same way I do....I just don't have a problem telling it like it is. I don't see a crossbow and anything other than another option when it comes to string fired weapons. To me that is what bows are I have said before and I will say it again a crossbow by it's very definition is a form of a bow. Different than a compound...yes but I still contend that it is no stranger than a crossbow is to a long bow.

If you bring to light the differences in one comparison why can't the differences be brought to light in the other?

I know they are differet but I contend they are both BIG differences in there own right and the one side should not be dismissed simply because they are different.

I say this because I think some of you are doing just that. If fact you have to, because to agree that the differences between compounds and long bows is just as great as the differences between compounds and crossbows albeit different shows hypocrisy.

silentassassin 04-06-2005 03:30 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

Isn't he the same prick who kept raising his hand in school?
Nah that was his cousin. Johnny is a pretty good kid:D


No.. he's the kid Suzy Rotten Crotch goes with.....
Tell Suzy the board says HI the next time you see her and don't be haten on Johnny becasue he took your woman[:-];)

Sorry couldn't resist:D


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