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datamax 04-06-2005 02:35 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

Data, this isn't about recurves vs compounds
It most certainly IS. Why ? You see crossbows as easier, as not-bows .......... why ? Because you shoot, in your opinion, a bow that is tough to master, challenging, fun to shoot ........... and a crossbow isn't anything like what you shoot. So you snub your nose at "different" because hey, its easier to shoot in your opinion and why should other guys be able to enjoy YOUR archery season without putting in the time and effort to master the same bow you use.

Thats VERY on the nose to how compounders feel about crossbows. Yet not for one moment do they think about how a recurve/longbow shooter views THEM.

I look at your fancy high teck, 30" ATA bow, drop away rest, fiber sights that glow at night, carbons tipped with mechanical heads, drawn, not with your fingers, but with your arms/shoulders, holding a mere 15% of the total weight for a very long time, shooting 300 fps, flat and quiet, using a triggered release , cams and pulleys, sights ........... are you frickin serious ? I can pick that bow up and shoot it incrediibly well within 10 mintues. I did it last fall as a matter of fact.

So I can easily look at you and say hey, you know what ? Drop the training wheels, leave the triggers and sights and letoff behind and if you want to be a real archer, learn to dedicate enough time to mastering the recurve/longbow. Go with cedars and broadheads you have to file sharpen yourself - EARN the right to call yourself a bowhunter.

See how easy that is ? I can do to you - what you do to crossbow bowhunters.

But other than making a point, I don't. I DO NOT CARE what kind of bow you shoot. I DO think that archery has lost something, however archery season is still 4 1/2 months with liberal bag limits ........ i can't bitch one bit about whats legal in the state of Arkansas, and thats crossbows, compounds, longbows and recurves.

Can I ?

BigJ71 04-06-2005 02:45 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

BigJ12...... Do you bowhunt? If so, what type of bow?

Boy I tell ya......BOWFANATIC you better not give me grief again when I say NOBODY READS MY POSTS!!

For about the 5th time..... I live in lllinois, I hunt with a compound bow. If given the choice I would STILL hunt with my compound bow. I happen to LOVE all of the gismos that are available to me for them because they give me a better chance to kill deer. I also hunt with a slug shotgun, pistol and rifle. I have hunted pretty much everything there is to hunt in the lower 48 states.

I am 40 years old and used to play offensive line in the NFL (just thought I'd through that in there;))

silentassassin 04-06-2005 02:48 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 
I think we can run this thing out to a thousand posts;) But my feelings are kind of being hurt. How come you guys keep ignoring me? Do you guys not like me anymore:(

silentassassin 04-06-2005 02:49 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

I am 40 years old and used to play offensive line in the NFL (just thought I'd through that in there
Heck I don't blame you that's quite an accomplishment, I would looking for a way to get that into the conversation myself;):D

BigJ71 04-06-2005 02:51 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

So I can easily look at you and say hey, you know what ? Drop the training wheels, leave the triggers and sights and letoff behind and if you want to be a real archer, learn to dedicate enough time to mastering the recurve/longbow. Go with cedars and broadheads you have to file sharpen yourself - EARN the right to call yourself a bowhunter.
NO WAY!!

Like I said, I started out with a long bow and then a recurve........sorry but too hard and I just don't have the time needed to become good enough to hunt with it. I like to shoot them and still do, but only for fun. No I will keep my compound bow. It has served me well and I happen to like all of the bells and whistles that they come with.

datamax 04-06-2005 02:57 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 
Like I said, I started out with a long bow and then a recurve........sorry but too hard and I just don't have the time needed to become good enough to hunt with it. I like to shoot them and still do, but only for fun. No I will keep my crossbow. It has served me well and I happen to like all of the bells and whistles that they come with.


why isn't that a valid reason to allow crossbows ?

GRIZZLYMAN 04-06-2005 02:59 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 
[quote]ORIGINAL: datamax

Well, thing is, people in states WITH crossbows have magically discovered their legality doesn't effect their deer hunting at all. And no one at the state capital cares - its the G&F heaquarters that might

Dang, I go work for a couple of hours and you guys have three more pages!

Datamax,

If you think that no one in the state capital will get involved with wildlife issues, look to a couple of months ago when the Arkansas Legistlature sent a non-binding resolution to the AGFC stating that they shouldn't do anything to limit or outlaw hunting deer with dogs. If you think this thread is long and heated, you should have seen the one on the Arkansas Hunting forum about that. The only thing that everyone on that thread agreed on was that it was dangerous for politicians to start telling AGFC what to do. I don't know how you and silentassassin feel about dog hunting, but the dog hunters have a strong lobby. I hope we don't have the same issues in the future with the crossbow vs other bows non-issue.

GRIZZLYMAN 04-06-2005 03:00 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 
Sorry about that; I had a brain fart on the quote text.[:@]

Double Creek 04-06-2005 03:01 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

I think we can run this thing out to a thousand posts But my feelings are kind of being hurt. How come you guys keep ignoring me? Do you guys not like me anymore
Ok then......Explain to me why you haven't posted a pic of a buck kill in a LONG time[8D]

BigJ71 04-06-2005 03:02 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

Heck I don't blame you that's quite an accomplishment, I would looking for a way to get that into the conversation myself
Thanks Silent,

I'm paying the price now, with all of the pain in my joints and all of the surgeries I have been through. But it did allow me to travel and be able to hunt as much as I have. I have alot of great memories and met (played with and against) lots of great people.

One of these days I will tell the story of how a rookie o-linemen for Denver made his NFL debut and got his ass kicked by an all pro named Howie Long:D I can still feel the pain!


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