Nub you are just too funny ,I noticed that when I set it up between my 20 and 30 I could pretty much use the same pin but I had so many pin's to work with, I thought I would try it this way but when I was done i noticed that that pin was being wasted .so I'll try a 60yrd instead.

nubo,

Check you arrows with a arrow spinner. Make sure that they are all spinning nice, as some arrows come with nocks/inserts incorrectly assembled and they don't spin true. Make sure they do, and then start up close again and try again.

Always make sure that you are entirely steady, using perfect form, and just squeeeeze the trigger. Paper tuning can show off any flaws in form.

Now, if you are still getting that tear, do a group tune. Start at 15 yards and use your 15 yard pin. Shoot the highest spot on your target. Shoot it about 3 times, then step back to 25 yards and shooting 3 more shots at the same spot with the same pin. Step back another 10 yards and shoot another 3 shots at the same spot with the same pin.

If everything is correct, your arrows should show up in a straight up and down line! If they are lined up at an angle, that will tell you to adjust the rest accordingly! This is actually a better test than just paper tuning. Remember to do it when you are shooting good though!

P.S. All of us "BowTechies" will be waiting for pics this fall

Nubo,
Glad to hear you're as happy with your Dually as I am with mine, I had the same problem with my mods and I actually called Bowtech and they told me( like Matt said)to use the blue loc-tite.

nubo, I had the exact same thing happen to my Patriot SC. I just Screwed don and haven't had the problem since. Great bow. I almost bought the dulley. When testing the bows there was only 4 FPS difference between the 2003 Dulley and the 2004 SC shooting my arrows. So I went with the 80% let off.

Explain?

04 Pat Pat VFT 320-328 fps. IBO
03 Pat DC 332-340 fps IBO

Are you assuming yours is upper end and the 03's are all lower end? Whats your weight and arrow speed?

nubo, I hope thisisn't the case, but from the sound of the tears you are getting, you may be just a tad underspined. If you can, try the next stiffer arrow available and see if the left tear goes away.

Nub I think your taking this the wrong way. I think that he's comparing the high end speed of his 2004 and the low end speed of the 2003 dually which is 4 fps which means nothing.

nubo

Not really taking it any way buddy. Just figured that was his way of looking at it.

You never know, he could be low end and me upper! WOW 20 fps![]