What broad head has the largest cut dia?????
02-01-2013, 12:17 PM
#11
Typical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 872
I have stuck several muzzy's through shoulder blades. You might think of a shoulder blade as being like a barrel. I stand by what I said and it is in fact good information from over 30 years of killing game with a bow. I have tried them all and will never go back to a large expandable for anything other than turkeys. A smaller fixed head will outperform a large expandable many times over when it comes to getting pass-through shots. Also, I can pull them out of the dirt, sharpen the blades and shoot them again. You wont do that with a cheaply made Rage. Several outfitters in the midwest will not even allow the Rages on their properties. And, they are illegal in some states. Sorry Rage lovers, but facts are facts. By your own admission, the long, unsupported blades are more likely to fail or break. Sounds like your "good" information came from the marketing department of Rage. Mine came from the field.
02-02-2013, 09:50 AM
#12
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 19,137
Welcome to the site you can get a lot of good information and you'll see alot disagreements. Especially about heads and bows.
Like someone already said it's not all about cutting diameter, many of the pros you'll see promoting a head or a bow this season used totally different equipment one or two years ago.If you have a good shop in your area they can help you out and so can the internet. There are KE calculators available and many tests independent on broadheads available.
One thing to pay no attention to are people that made the perfect shot with broadhead X but never found their deer so it's the heads fault. You make the perfect shot you kill the animal and they aren't hard to find.
Any sharp head that is put in the right spot is going to kill an animal quickly. Sometimes that doesn't happen and that's where the good ones are seperated from the bad. We might not be shooting through metal barrels but shoulder blades and spines are pretty darn tough.
As important as a good broad is knowing when to pursue game after the shot and how to track. More animals ar lost due to not giving enough time on a marginal shot then just about anything.
Like someone already said it's not all about cutting diameter, many of the pros you'll see promoting a head or a bow this season used totally different equipment one or two years ago.If you have a good shop in your area they can help you out and so can the internet. There are KE calculators available and many tests independent on broadheads available.
One thing to pay no attention to are people that made the perfect shot with broadhead X but never found their deer so it's the heads fault. You make the perfect shot you kill the animal and they aren't hard to find.
Any sharp head that is put in the right spot is going to kill an animal quickly. Sometimes that doesn't happen and that's where the good ones are seperated from the bad. We might not be shooting through metal barrels but shoulder blades and spines are pretty darn tough.
As important as a good broad is knowing when to pursue game after the shot and how to track. More animals ar lost due to not giving enough time on a marginal shot then just about anything.
Last edited by Charlie P; 02-02-2013 at 09:56 AM.
02-03-2013, 06:43 AM
#13
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Burleson Texas
Posts: 12,560
I can't over emphasize that! WAITING is so important; I've even seen it with gun hunters. I've been hunting since Jesus was in high school and I still get anxious to see what I shot; but I have to force myself to GIVE IT TIME.
Use the broad head that you shoot best (shot placement is more important than cutting diameter). I like to shoot heavy; I've been using Muzzy Phantom 220 gn for years because I like the KE and I can knock the sneakers off a rattlesnake at 40 yards with my set up.
02-03-2013, 06:01 PM
#14
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Southampton Pa BUCKS CO
Posts: 2,492
I have stuck several muzzy's through shoulder blades. You might think of a shoulder blade as being like a barrel. I stand by what I said and it is in fact good information from over 30 years of killing game with a bow. I have tried them all and will never go back to a large expandable for anything other than turkeys. A smaller fixed head will outperform a large expandable many times over when it comes to getting pass-through shots. Also, I can pull them out of the dirt, sharpen the blades and shoot them again. You wont do that with a cheaply made Rage. Several outfitters in the midwest will not even allow the Rages on their properties. And, they are illegal in some states. Sorry Rage lovers, but facts are facts. By your own admission, the long, unsupported blades are more likely to fail or break. Sounds like your "good" information came from the marketing department of Rage. Mine came from the field.
02-05-2013, 07:00 AM
#17
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 13
Your going to get every answer in the book on this. I'd use the search function and you'll be able to pull up many different topics on this. The largest diameter broadhead is usually not the best broadhead to use. You have to match the broadhead with you bow, draw weight, size of the animal etc. Personally I use the Slick Trick Magnum. I don't measure my broadheads by diameter though, I'm more interested in the amount of cutting surface. With my slick tricks I have over 2" in cutting surface and don't have to worry about any mechanical error with an expandable opening up. I'm not saying expandables are bad, I just prefer fixed blade.
02-08-2013, 02:56 PM
#18
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Lake County, Florida
Posts: 3,313
I have stuck several muzzy's through shoulder blades. You might think of a shoulder blade as being like a barrel. I stand by what I said and it is in fact good information from over 30 years of killing game with a bow. I have tried them all and will never go back to a large expandable for anything other than turkeys. A smaller fixed head will outperform a large expandable many times over when it comes to getting pass-through shots. Also, I can pull them out of the dirt, sharpen the blades and shoot them again. You wont do that with a cheaply made Rage. Several outfitters in the midwest will not even allow the Rages on their properties. And, they are illegal in some states. Sorry Rage lovers, but facts are facts. By your own admission, the long, unsupported blades are more likely to fail or break. Sounds like your "good" information came from the marketing department of Rage. Mine came from the field.
i do agree with your assessment on Rage's. i have killed deer with them but the blades and head were trashed. also mechanicals take alot more KE and MO to work perfectly. alot of people don't have this and shoot them anyway. my bow shoots 323 fps and has 92 lbs. of KE. i have no trouble putting a 2" Grim Reaper Whitetail Special through a deer's shoulder blades and deep into the dirt on the other side.
by the way, i don't shoot Rage's anymore and haven't for a long time. also i'm not so cheap that i feel the need to reuse a broadhead. if i have to replace a broadhead for every found deer that i shoot, i believe that is a good trade off.
Last edited by CamoCop; 02-08-2013 at 02:59 PM.