bowtech Destroyer 350 problem?
#51
Oh...back to that.
I think you've been exposed, there, too. But, it's your hole......keep diggin'.
If you're OK with the staffers buying bows cheaper than you can....good for you! Every time they sell one, though, that's a customer a dealer would have had. You can't blame other dealers for seeing it that way (mine does).
Like I said....it bothers me none.
I think you've been exposed, there, too. But, it's your hole......keep diggin'.
If you're OK with the staffers buying bows cheaper than you can....good for you! Every time they sell one, though, that's a customer a dealer would have had. You can't blame other dealers for seeing it that way (mine does).
Like I said....it bothers me none.
Last edited by GMMAT; 01-01-2011 at 12:42 PM.
#52
I didn't figure you would be able to answer it truthfully.
So you don't think a corporate staffer should be compensated for his time traveling, attending shows, attending local and national shoots, etc... etc... on behalf of a company? You and your dealer think they should do it for free?
If I had the time and wanted to take on the added hassle of being a corporate staffer then I would expect to compensated.
you're OK with the staffers buying bows cheaper than you can....good for you! Every time they sell one, though, that's a customer a dealer would have had. You can't blame other dealers for seeing it that way (mine does).
If I had the time and wanted to take on the added hassle of being a corporate staffer then I would expect to compensated.
Last edited by bigbulls; 01-01-2011 at 01:46 PM.
#53
I'm not a Bowtech dealer. I don't give a rat's ass what they do or who/how they compensate anyone.
#54
Typical dodging of the question presented.
I'm not talking about Bowtech. Should a corporate staffer get compensated for their time and expenses or not? Do you expect to be compensated for your time and work or do you prefer to work for free?
I'm not talking about Bowtech. Should a corporate staffer get compensated for their time and expenses or not? Do you expect to be compensated for your time and work or do you prefer to work for free?
#55
I really hesitate to respond any more to post made by GMMAT or bigcountry because quite frankly their history of trying to ridicule me, staff, BowTech, and anyone else that might defend them is well documented.
For the record I was asked to be on staff because of my belief in a company and their products, also what I bring to the table with my many years in archery and experience working with the public. As Staff we are asked to work trade shows, dealer shows, special dealer/store events, and keep tabs on problems dealers in our area or where we might travel are experiencing, not too post on the internet! LOL!!
The last year I kept track I worked a total 11 days at various events/shows, drove a total of over 1700 miles with no compensation for time, mileage, or gas. I might add my overnight rooms were paid for and most of my meals, but not all my meals were.
If anyone believes that bow was free then they definitely are doing some different math than I am.
As far as what I do with those bows after I am done with them. Well honestly that is my business! But since you seem to want to stick your nose in my business the fact is yes I sold approx 50% of the bows I have received in the past 4 years and with very small to no profit. After all they were used.
The other 50% were given to younger archers, or individuals who were in a financial situation that prevented them from buying a New bow but yet they Love the sport of Archery/Bowhunting. That was my choice! I might add there was great satisfaction in playing Santa Claus to someone who can only dream about a new to them BowTech.
I have also posted in Mathews and Hoyt threads when I thought they were being needlessly bashed and will continue.
Is BowTech perfect? No! They have had issues with Cam lean and I think I owned one of the worst I have saw but as noted in a previous post in this thread it never caused me a problem, nor the guy I gave it to after shooting it 2 years. They have addressed those cam lean problems and they are rare now. I also know they have had issues with customer service that is less than what I would like to see, but everyone at hdqtrs is aware of it and striving to correct the problem.
The unbelievable growth BowTech has had since 99 is amazing and there are going to be growing pains. Their products are pushing technology every year, and the Hardcore limbs have been a super addition to the line and is expanding in 2011.
I could care less what bow anyone shoots. If you are an honest, ethical Bowhunter, then as far as I am concerned you are a brother of mine in Archery and I'll help you any way I kind. In the past few months I have setup PSE, Hoyt, Mathews, Diamond, and BowTech bows and extreme care was taken with each setup. I have helped many on the forums around the net get parts at zero profit to me? Why you might ask? To help a fellow Archer/Bowhunter
I Hope everyone has a Happy New Year!!
Dan
For the record I was asked to be on staff because of my belief in a company and their products, also what I bring to the table with my many years in archery and experience working with the public. As Staff we are asked to work trade shows, dealer shows, special dealer/store events, and keep tabs on problems dealers in our area or where we might travel are experiencing, not too post on the internet! LOL!!
The last year I kept track I worked a total 11 days at various events/shows, drove a total of over 1700 miles with no compensation for time, mileage, or gas. I might add my overnight rooms were paid for and most of my meals, but not all my meals were.
If anyone believes that bow was free then they definitely are doing some different math than I am.
As far as what I do with those bows after I am done with them. Well honestly that is my business! But since you seem to want to stick your nose in my business the fact is yes I sold approx 50% of the bows I have received in the past 4 years and with very small to no profit. After all they were used.
The other 50% were given to younger archers, or individuals who were in a financial situation that prevented them from buying a New bow but yet they Love the sport of Archery/Bowhunting. That was my choice! I might add there was great satisfaction in playing Santa Claus to someone who can only dream about a new to them BowTech.
I have also posted in Mathews and Hoyt threads when I thought they were being needlessly bashed and will continue.
Is BowTech perfect? No! They have had issues with Cam lean and I think I owned one of the worst I have saw but as noted in a previous post in this thread it never caused me a problem, nor the guy I gave it to after shooting it 2 years. They have addressed those cam lean problems and they are rare now. I also know they have had issues with customer service that is less than what I would like to see, but everyone at hdqtrs is aware of it and striving to correct the problem.
The unbelievable growth BowTech has had since 99 is amazing and there are going to be growing pains. Their products are pushing technology every year, and the Hardcore limbs have been a super addition to the line and is expanding in 2011.
I could care less what bow anyone shoots. If you are an honest, ethical Bowhunter, then as far as I am concerned you are a brother of mine in Archery and I'll help you any way I kind. In the past few months I have setup PSE, Hoyt, Mathews, Diamond, and BowTech bows and extreme care was taken with each setup. I have helped many on the forums around the net get parts at zero profit to me? Why you might ask? To help a fellow Archer/Bowhunter
I Hope everyone has a Happy New Year!!

Dan
Last edited by MeanV2; 01-02-2011 at 07:06 AM.
#56
Like I said all along......I don't care what you do with your bows, either. I'm not a dealer. I was simply pointing out how some dealers aren't very fond of people buying bows cheaper than they can buy them for. And, you can't expect them to be happy about scores of bows being sold to people that don't go through them (the dealers).
Affects me (0). I don't care.
Affects me (0). I don't care.
#57
I guarantee you I have a very Good relationship with my local dealer. I send several customers to him every year and he calls on me for help regularly.
I don't abuse my position nor it's perks. That is up to the individual, but I have not, nor would I take business away from my dealer. I know my dealer would confirm that. Matter of fact last year I paid 1/2 for a booth at the Midwest Whitetail Expo with him and then worked representing BowTech and his shop.
Some people don't base everything they do on a couple of $$. I sleep good at night.
Jeff that's what happens when you post about me, my relationship with my dealer, and my position with BowTech through nothing but pure speculation on your part as you don't even know me.
Your dealer has differences with a corp staff member? He should take it up with him.
I work hard to keep a good relationship with my local dealer! It is all about the Fun and enjoying what you are doing, and if that leaves then I'll guarantee you I would quit.
Dan
I don't abuse my position nor it's perks. That is up to the individual, but I have not, nor would I take business away from my dealer. I know my dealer would confirm that. Matter of fact last year I paid 1/2 for a booth at the Midwest Whitetail Expo with him and then worked representing BowTech and his shop.
Some people don't base everything they do on a couple of $$. I sleep good at night.

Jeff that's what happens when you post about me, my relationship with my dealer, and my position with BowTech through nothing but pure speculation on your part as you don't even know me.
Your dealer has differences with a corp staff member? He should take it up with him.
I work hard to keep a good relationship with my local dealer! It is all about the Fun and enjoying what you are doing, and if that leaves then I'll guarantee you I would quit.

Dan
Like I said all along......I don't care what you do with your bows, either. I'm not a dealer. I was simply pointing out how some dealers aren't very fond of people buying bows cheaper than they can buy them for. And, you can't expect them to be happy about scores of bows being sold to people that don't go through them (the dealers).
Affects me (0). I don't care.
Affects me (0). I don't care.
#58
Jeff that's what happens when you post about me, my relationship with my dealer, and my position with BowTech through nothing but pure speculation on your part as you don't even know me.
Your dealer has differences with a corp staff member? He should take it up with him.
#60
I don't see what's so hard to understand, Dan. If I were a dealer (and I know 2 who are), I wouldn't like the setup.
I'll reiterate.....I don't give a rat's ass.
I'll reiterate.....I don't give a rat's ass.



