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Old 12-31-2010 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MeanV2
A String derails when string is torqued/pulled sideways out of a cam upon letdown. If the cam is not damaged that is. Like I said pretty simple, but many prefer to make things complex, don't they

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Old 12-31-2010 | 05:29 AM
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And GMMAT comes to BC's rescue. Now this thread is truly complete. What took so long?

$500 profit on a bow. HA HA HA HA HA HA! Seriously??????




Just to keep this thread alive and well......

I wonder why the 340 doesn't seem to have the same perceived "problem" that the 350 does????????? Anyone care to offer up an explanation? I mean.... they have the same hardcore limbs, same overdrive cams, same Octane strings. Everything about these two bows is exactly the same except for one thing. Anyone know what that one thing is??????

I know the answer but do the rest of you?

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Old 12-31-2010 | 05:59 AM
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The difference between the 340 and 350 is the draw length range, the brace height and the riser is a little different as well. It's a little slower than the 350 too.

It's just my opinion, but I think people derail bows because they are not careful when letting down. I have seen people that think they are experienced bowhunters and many really don't know what's going on with their bow.
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Old 12-31-2010 | 10:13 AM
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$500 profit on a bow. HA HA HA HA HA HA! Seriously??????
Never once did I say that.

But, ask Dan how much he pays for his bows. I'm spot-on.....which is less than you (as a dealer) pay for them.

So yeah....if he sells his bows for retail.......that's $500 profit.
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Old 12-31-2010 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by bigbulls
I wonder why the 340 doesn't seem to have the same perceived "problem" that the 350 does????????? Anyone care to offer up an explanation? I mean.... they have the same hardcore limbs, same overdrive cams, same Octane strings. Everything about these two bows is exactly the same except for one thing. Anyone know what that one thing is??????

I know the answer but do the rest of you?
Well apparently the inexperienced archers who buy bows of to high a poundage and have know idea how to draw or let down a bow and have a draw length greater then 29+ only buy the 350.

Conversely the archers that know how to draw and let down a bow and can handle the higher poundage buy the 340.

Just in case its not clear the above reply is a bad attempt at sarcasm.

Some of the differences between the 340 & 350.

Different Riser, Longer FlexGuard, cable 1/8 shorter on the 340, 1 inch longer brace height, draw length on the 340 starts an inch longer and finishes and inch longer then the 350, Kinetic energy output approx 5.4ft-lb lower on the 340, the module setting on the 340 @29inch is pos 5 compared to the 350 pos 3, the post setting on the 340 @29inch is pos 5 compared to the 350 pos 3, String position on the cam at full draw is different (340 appears to have more string on the lobe at full draw compared to the 350), 340 slightly slower then the 350.

I am surprised a man of your obvious knowledge and experience could ever utter the words
Everything about these two bows is exactly the same except for one thing. Anyone know what that one thing is??????
Why don't you educate us on the one thing that is different.

Michael

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Old 12-31-2010 | 06:06 PM
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Never once did I say that.

But, ask Dan how much he pays for his bows. I'm spot-on.....which is less than you (as a dealer) pay for them.

So yeah....if he sells his bows for retail.......that's $500 profit.
Sorry.... I have always known $900 minus $400 to equal $500. Don't know what I was thinking.

I know how much he pays for his bows and I know he sure as heck isn't making $500 on a destroyer.... or any bow for that matter. But I bet every pro shop owner across the country wishes they could make 130% mark up on their bows.


Why don't you educate us on the one thing that is different.
You have had all day to ponder this question and you couldn't figure it out? Surely it has crossed your mind while looking up all of those numbers. The amount of reflex in the riser.

Do you know what a highly reflexed riser does to a bow? I bet if you think about it you can come up with the answer. It's the same thing that plagued the monster bows, the reezen bows, the PSE omens, and other highly reflexed bows past and present.
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Old 12-31-2010 | 09:52 PM
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Sorry.... I have always known $900 minus $400 to equal $500. Don't know what I was thinking.
And, the simple math I referenced would tell you......if he sells them for retail ($900), he'll make a $500 profit. You DO know what he pays for them. I told you (and he didn't dispute it).

If I were a dealer......I wouldn't be happy about it (someone being able to buy and sell bows cheaper and for more profit than I). But, you're obviously OK with it. No problems on my end.
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Old 01-01-2011 | 08:07 AM
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If I were a dealer......I wouldn't be happy about it (someone being able to buy and sell bows cheaper and for more profit than I). But, you're obviously OK with it. No problems on my end.
If I were a communist it would probably bother me. Didn't know you were. Oh well, learn something new every day about people.

That's called free market capitalism. If he buys enough bows to have the purchasing power to be able to purchase a destroyer for $400, sell them for $900 and make $500 profit then good for him. That's the way the free market works. Of course I know better.

I guess you'd be happier if the government regulated bow sales and told Bowtech (or any bow company) how much they had to sell their bows for and in return told the retailer how much profit they could make.
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Old 01-01-2011 | 08:12 AM
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If I were a communist it would probably bother me. Didn't know you were. Oh well, learn something new every day about people.
The only thing I'm sure of.....is that you're clueless.

He doesn't HAVE to buy any bows. He GETS to buy 10 at prices lower than you....a dealer....pays. What's communism got to do with that?

Are you OK if I...a regular consumer....can buy bows from Bowtech, cheaper than you can? Why? Are you a communist?
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Old 01-01-2011 | 11:34 AM
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He doesn't HAVE to buy any bows. He GETS to buy 10 at prices lower than you....a dealer....pays. What's communism got to do with that?
I didn't say he HAD to buy bows. Communist attitude has to do with....
If I were a dealer......I wouldn't be happy about it (someone being able to buy and sell bows cheaper and for more profit than I).
You see... someone with a capitalist/free market way of thinking doens't worry about what the other guy negotiates for themselves. They worry about what they are doing and what they are negotiating for themselves. Those that always worry about the other guy are always behind the 8 ball. Communists do and would prefer to regulate it so that it can't happen.

Are you OK if I...a regular consumer....can buy bows from Bowtech, cheaper than you can? Why? Are you a communist?
Is MeanV a regular consumer or corporate staff and/or dealer? Nope, don't bother me a bit. Anyone with the desire and the qualifications that a manufacturer is looking for can apply to be a corporate staff shooter for one of the manufacturers and get the same perks if selected. As a dealer the more you buy the less you pay.

What a company decides to do with their product doesn't bother me at all. It's their product and they are free to market it any way that they wish.

If a manufacturer were stupid enough to sell their products to the general public (you, not Dan) at a price that was less than what they were selling to dealers then the free market system would take care of it all by itself and pretty quick at that. High Country tried this a few years ago, lost most of their dealer base, and dang near went out of business because of it.



But none of this has anything to do with why the 340 doesn't seem to have the same problem as the 350. There is only one real physical difference in the two bows. Can you or any of the other "must be a design flaw" guys explain why the problem exists in one bow and not the other?


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