Question

What happened to the "early" people? There were the native indians, tribes in Africa, people all over the world that never got the word. Never heard of or read the bible.

What happened to them? Are they all in hell? Are they in Heaven? Some one some the other?

Of course i don't know that answer and I imagine no one on here could know either. However, the question still stands. What happened to those people and why do you think that way?

We don't know. We are not told. Who knows, maybe they had thier own covenant.

But the bottom line is, I can't imagine that keeping me from believing in Jesus Christ.

BC,
The question not being answered has nothing to do with me believing in Jesus Christ. It is just something i have wondered and have asked in church. People give many different answers and i was wondering how some of us would answer that question.

Looks like I'm hell-bound for sure, not that I'm surprised by this. I am a "non-believer." This entire thread is why religion does not appeal to me. All you religious folks can sit there and easily criticize someone else for not doing what you do. Why is your way right and mine wrong? I don't believe in a book of fables written by man. Do you really think a senior citizen built a boat and saved the animals? Everything that is written is written by man, humans, and been interpreted countless times. How can it still be true? If you hear a story from someone that starts "My friend's brother's cousin's nephew..."you are immediately skeptical, but with the sotry of christianity, it is followed like the most obvious truth ever.

I could honestly care less what the responses to this are going to be. If you want to claim to know what kind of person I am because I don't go to church, then so be it, but think about who the ignorant one really is. When you all meet someone for the first time, is the first question you ask based on religion, and then all other actions/thoughts are based from there? Sure as hell seems to be in this discussion.

At its most basic level, this conversation is no different than Hoyt v Mathews v Bowtech. Mine is the best, and don't tell me any different.

But for you it might not, but there's 10 people to your one that has problem with this. They just can't believe something they don't understand.

But in the same sense, they don't understand the universe. How it was made. They don't understand the extents of space. How the earth wa formed. And if they come up with a theory how it was formed, what was before. When time began. What is time.

You get the gist of what I am saying.

Well Mike, seems like you just lump all people that believe in religion together. You assume or at least make reference that "all you religious folks can sit there and easily critisize someone for not doing what you do". I certainly have not done that.

All you hunters are just brown and down types
All you hunters are just fling and arrow and see where it lands types
All you hunters are just pick up the bow day 1 of the season and bring it in the woods without sighting it in types.

Mike, I must be describing you above because you sir are a hunter.

Danny, the people posting in this thread are lumping everyone who has not "accepted his word" into the same category. It is a FAR broader statement than "what is a hunter." Nice try though...

Mike,
Accept god or don't. It is you who have to decide. Ihave not or will not judge your decision.
But you are certainly painting all believers with one broad stroke. As can happen to you and i as hunters by those who do not believe

Actually, we know the Bible is one of the most if not the most historically correct books written ever. Homers Illiad is about the only thing that comes close. The book was wrote over several continents, without a printing press, by people who didn't speak much. And still when they put together all the material they have found and even from the Dead Sea Scrolls to papyrus found in Ethiopia, to manuscript found in Turkey, they line up more closely than any other book for its age.

Only thing we really don't know about is the end of the book of Mark and thats only like 3-4 verses.

Actually there is quite a bit of "proof" that things in the bible actually happened. There is an Archeologist that has found many things that prove the stories in the bible. Look around the internet. But when you do keep an open mind. It is easy to believe the bible isn't true. Because we are spoon fed things that are not true that scientist take as truths. The big bang theory and evolution are two that come to mind. My children get spoon fed this at school as did I and I am sure you did too. We believe that things are billions and billions of years old because of things like carbon dating. These tests are now being proven to be incorrect. Yet science seems to bury these things so that we will disregard anything the bible says.

Many historians confirm that Jesus lived and that these things happened. Unfortunately there is a number of people that have set out to make it seem this isn't real or that everything in the bible is just made up stories. Do some research on the stories of the bible. Look up places and such that these stories happened. Look for archeological information on them. Do all of this with an open mind and see if you don't begin to believe.

Human beings have a weakness called pride. We pride our selves on being the most intelligent beings on this earth. We run the place. No other species has the intelligence to build and survive and learn the way we do. So it is a very hard thing for people to believe that their brain cannot comprehend what and why GOD does things. Look around with an open mind and remember you don't even understand everything in your daily lives...not to the degree you think you do. Then open the bible and read it and reference other non religious information. See what happens.

I cannot make you believe. I cannot convince you that you have a problem with pride. I cannot say if you will go to heaven or hell. You have to come to those things yourself, to know them in your heart.


The bible says that to get to heaven you have to accept Christ. It also say something about you being responsible for the things you have been told. I don't know the exact wording but it seems to me that if you lived in some 3rd world country and somehow never heard about Jesus that you are not responsible for that and will be judged by him accordingly. However, I believe most people have heard it and have either chosen to ignore it or have accepted it.
As for the church issue. I believe we are called to attend church. If you miss your not going to Hell. But to make the effort shows you are willing to do whatever he wants you to do. We are called to spread the word. That is our job as Believers in Jesus. Sure churches aren't perfect. Your supposed to take what a preacher says and study it. See if you come to the same conclusions and if not start asking him questions. The more time you study (open minded) the more understanding God will give you.

I don't make every church service. I try to make most Sunday evening services.
I look at church like this. Christians are supposed to be a light to the world. I've heard of us being described like a rechargeable flashlight. After a while you need a charge up. That’s where the church service is supposed to come it. Unfortunately, sometimes that can get forgotten when you go to church for the wrong reasons. Reasons like seeing what other people are doing and gossip etc. These things have brought many people down. Worrying about what others think about you also will tear you down. Forget what others think and study.

When people get saved they change and are a new person. But that does not mean that things that are sins will all stop overnight. God understands and want to help you change. And HE will show you what you need to change and when. People telling you to change, even if they are trying to help, shouldn't be your only motivation. That being said if you know it is wrong and you do it anyway it is a sin. The point is we are sinners and God works on us trying to help us be more like him. It takes time. Seek him and he'll help. Study the bible and he'll make it clear to you. Keep and open mind and an open heart and Jesus will show you the way.


Wow I got a bit long winded. I love being in the woods and I do feel closer to him when I am. But that should not be the only time you go to him in prayer. We are told by the bible to worship him. Praise him for everything he's done for you. I cannot do that in the woods alone. I have to do that with my entire life. The way I present myself to others. And yes giving up some hunting (or goofing off time) to make myself get to church. All of thatand it isn't even a drop in the bucket compared to what he has done for me.

God Bless all of you.
Jason