RE: Not 2 Impressed with the 09 Hoyts
 

They still have 18 bows in their lineup now.:DThat is just the compounds.;)

What other company has that many?

Their target bows hold a back seat to no one and have different options available to suit most anyone.To be honest,I wasn't a big fan of the Trykon.Actually,there have been quite a few of the hunting bows I wasn't impressed with, BUT,I can say that about all companies.

The competition has definately raised the bar,which is a good thing but sometimes,change isn't better(remember that when you vote.[&:])I have not been convinced parallel limbs are better.A box is not more stable than a triangle.;)Might be why,for the most part,you don't see them in the hands of pros.As far as hunting goes,yes,they are quieter and smoother but that doesn't always mean better.

But it would be nice to see them push the envelope a little and show people what is actually possible.IMO,they could easily produce a bow that shoots 340 with a 7"+ brace and 35-36" a-a with a smooth shootable cam and still stay together for those that push the 5 grain per pound rule of thumb.IMO,the Alphamax 35 in the 330's with the draw cycle similar to the Katera would be the biggest selling bow to hit the market.

RE: Not 2 Impressed with the 09 Hoyts
 

Nyuck Nyuck Nyuck:D

RE: Not 2 Impressed with the 09 Hoyts
 

With that comment, you win..I couldn't agree more.

I wasn't impressed with the Trykon either but I had the XL as I tend to prefer the longer ATA bows.

RE: Not 2 Impressed with the 09 Hoyts
 

Aint nothing new, like a bridged riser that's over 30 years old and it's shoot through too.;)

RE: Not 2 Impressed with the 09 Hoyts
 

Ok, everybody brings out something, If I shoot it will I be shooting something that will impress me, is it a leap? Why did they bring it out? Was it a fix for a problem or a leap in a whole new direction? Thing is, in the past it seemed Hoyt would rather bring out nothing instead of something that wasn't way above par, wasn't a new direction. When they went parallel it seem as if they were just putting out what they had and depended on the name not the product to push it. The result has put BT were it is today.

Their was a great General in the past who had the ability to force a super power to come and fight on ground he'd prepared, he always won during that time. I think Hoyt, who refused for years to engage the competition on the field of parallel limbs, has fallen prey to a more experienced competition. Hoyt was kicking butt without the limb change.

I remember one of the recorded battles. An experience general had figured out the others philosophy and as long as he was there the military didn't fall prey to the wise general. One day he was called home and a youngster was put in his place. The youngster had been strictly warned not to fall for the trick, but he was pridefull, and lacked the maturityto follow the instruction and fell victim to the wise generals trap. The general quickly heard the news of the others absence,without delayprepare the ground, made sure his men were plenty rested and very early in the morning before the other camp had time to break fast (eat breakfast) sent somemen across the river to taunt them. The enemy mustered quickly, crossed the freezing water and were led to the ground and slaughtered. I think the new leadership at Hoyt is like that young leader. If you've seen the movie Braveheart, a scene in it where they drew the English into battle was taken from the wise generals tactics (the rising of the full “moon“ :D). The general was Hannibal of Carthage, his enemy, Rome. A wise son who listened to his father, Hamilcar. Something to be said for respecting your elders.:D

Bowtech's even told the competion how they see things. The "General", "82'nd Airborn". Give that name a google search. lol:DThey aught to come out with the "William Wallace" or the "Hannibal".:D

RE: Not 2 Impressed with the 09 Hoyts
 

It's interesting to me how bows are "regional". I don't know a single person around here who shoots Hoyt. I wouldn't know where to go to buy one within an hour of here.......and when mentioned in hunting circles here....they're kinda viewed as Yugo's are in car circles.

Obviously they're a good bow....and a good company. I did give them a fair shake a couple years ago before buying my Allegiance. At that time....the Trykon was their flagship bow. Man.....what timing, huh?.....lol.

I assume the Edsel was Ford's flagship model one year, too.;)

RE: Not 2 Impressed with the 09 Hoyts
 

Think back when Hoyt brought out the AlphaTec, it was the first of its kind. For years, Hoyt fought the single cam and not saying that was a bad thing, but then gave in with the Redline Cam to try and gain sales that were going to Mathews.

Again, Hoyt is a good company, they have been able to market, and market well, the Tec Series Risers, split limbs, etc. ButI have to say that to me, and its just my opinion, Bowtech and Mathews have created some excitement around their lineup which creates sales.

I am not sure where Hoyt stands as far as Units sold, but it just seems like the others have alot to talk about.

RE: Not 2 Impressed with the 09 Hoyts
 

So, Did you look it up to try and provethe pointor just directly copy and paste out of one of TFOX's Previous posts?:D

Which is what TFOX is claiming,that no new technology is truly new regardless of company, center pivot, roller guard, tec riser, none of it is new.....
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=3115313&mpage=2&key== ;)

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I've known about Archery History much longer than I've known of TFOX. I have it booked mark as I've been bowhunting for 27 years. I love everything about it and although he needed to post the pic of "Bowtech" parts, I just had to as he put it, post the bridge riser....:D

You take offense? ;)

RE: Not 2 Impressed with the 09 Hoyts
 

The tec riser may have been done but was it done with a cam and a half or many of the other differences? Nothing wrong with using what works. The tec riser or arch is as old as... well maybe not Moses but pretty close. :D

Cool pic!