If you are anti-mechanical.......why?
09-08-2008 | 02:15 PM
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If you are anti-mechanical.......why?
Check all that apply.
1. Had a bad experience with one years ago?
2. Had a bad experience with one, recently (name please....and describe the experience)
3. I hate moving parts, but haven't tried expandables
4. I hate moving parts and have tried expandables (when?)
5. A "buddy" had a bad experience (when?)
6. I sell more fixed blades than expandables.
7. No reason to fix what isn't broken. I've never shot expandables but love the results of my fixed blades.
8. My bow/setup doesn't push enough KE to shoot them.
9. No reason.....just like to hate.
10. My mom won't buy me BH's....and fixed blades are less expensive.
11. Too expensive.
12. I "heard" they are not dependable (refer to no's 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 & 11)
1. Had a bad experience with one years ago?
2. Had a bad experience with one, recently (name please....and describe the experience)
3. I hate moving parts, but haven't tried expandables
4. I hate moving parts and have tried expandables (when?)
5. A "buddy" had a bad experience (when?)
6. I sell more fixed blades than expandables.
7. No reason to fix what isn't broken. I've never shot expandables but love the results of my fixed blades.
8. My bow/setup doesn't push enough KE to shoot them.
9. No reason.....just like to hate.
10. My mom won't buy me BH's....and fixed blades are less expensive.
11. Too expensive.
12. I "heard" they are not dependable (refer to no's 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 & 11)
09-08-2008 | 02:18 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: If you are anti-mechanical.......why?
I shot expandables years ago when I had slow moving arrows due to my bow speed...and fat aluminum shafts. I had partial penetration and I just got fed up with them....they shot well however. I am still teetering on getting them again. I have shot fixed blades for the past 5 years however.
09-08-2008 | 02:21 PM
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RE: If you are anti-mechanical.......why?
Check all that apply.
7. No reason to fix what isn't broken. I've never shot expandables but love the results of my fixed blades.
9. No reason.....just like to hate. I like this one best.
I find the it funny that people say mechanical broad heads are band aids for poorly tuned bows.
I like to think they are like band aids for poor shooting skills.[
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7. No reason to fix what isn't broken. I've never shot expandables but love the results of my fixed blades.
9. No reason.....just like to hate. I like this one best.
I find the it funny that people say mechanical broad heads are band aids for poorly tuned bows.
I like to think they are like band aids for poor shooting skills.[
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09-08-2008 | 02:24 PM
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RE: If you are anti-mechanical.......why?
I find the it funny that people say mechanical broad heads are band aids for poorly tuned bows.
I like to think they are like band aids for poor shooting skills.[]
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You're implying people who shoot mechanicals are somehow less ethical????????
09-08-2008 | 02:34 PM
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RE: If you are anti-mechanical.......why?
im not anti-mechanical....im just having a HECK of a time convincing myself to use them...dont NEED to convince myself of anything...
but i have a mental block that mechanicals are just that...MECHANICAL...ive had it pounded in my brain and confirmed 10000 times over..ANYTHING mechanical CAN AND WILL FAIL sooner or later. period. saftey on a rifle, action of an autoloader, your car parts, the fan in your house, whatever....
and i see those loose blades and all that...i know they are held on by a prettttty small screw in all the instances i can think of....just how hard is it to sear that small screw and have your blade fall off??? not very!
for the record, ive fired jack-knife style mechanicals and Rocky Mountain Snypers..both performed excellent on targets....blow some VERY impressive holes into the foam and fruit ive shot with them...
but, i guess the long and short of it is for me is if it aint broke, dont try fixing it! my fixed heads are always open...*a fair bit* are tougher than any expandable out there on the market right now...so for my fixed head to do ITS job, it has to 1)be sharp and 2)hit the correct spot and it WILL do its job.
just my feelings and why i havent used an expandable on game. believe me, those Rage holes are impressive...does alot more cutting than a standard 2 or 3 or 4 blade fixed head does....and id simply love to blow holes in deer like that to ensure i do as much damage to it as possible....but, they are finally making pretty large cutting fixed heads...i'll let others test them this season...and likely screw em on my arrows next season....my Muzzys aint broke..work great...but a bigger cut is better if you have the energy and momentum for it, which i do
but i have a mental block that mechanicals are just that...MECHANICAL...ive had it pounded in my brain and confirmed 10000 times over..ANYTHING mechanical CAN AND WILL FAIL sooner or later. period. saftey on a rifle, action of an autoloader, your car parts, the fan in your house, whatever....
and i see those loose blades and all that...i know they are held on by a prettttty small screw in all the instances i can think of....just how hard is it to sear that small screw and have your blade fall off??? not very!
for the record, ive fired jack-knife style mechanicals and Rocky Mountain Snypers..both performed excellent on targets....blow some VERY impressive holes into the foam and fruit ive shot with them...
but, i guess the long and short of it is for me is if it aint broke, dont try fixing it! my fixed heads are always open...*a fair bit* are tougher than any expandable out there on the market right now...so for my fixed head to do ITS job, it has to 1)be sharp and 2)hit the correct spot and it WILL do its job.
just my feelings and why i havent used an expandable on game. believe me, those Rage holes are impressive...does alot more cutting than a standard 2 or 3 or 4 blade fixed head does....and id simply love to blow holes in deer like that to ensure i do as much damage to it as possible....but, they are finally making pretty large cutting fixed heads...i'll let others test them this season...and likely screw em on my arrows next season....my Muzzys aint broke..work great...but a bigger cut is better if you have the energy and momentum for it, which i do
09-08-2008 | 02:36 PM
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Giant Nontypical
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RE: If you are anti-mechanical.......why?
None of the above...Although I don't hate them, I just prefer fixed heads...
I tried 125 Spitfires several years ago and they did fine...The problem is that after the shot, you have to replace the blades, the same with fixed...
I can buy 6 Thunderheads for about $35...Replacement blades are about $20...That's $55 for 6 heads and replacements...
Rage heads are $35 for 3...Blades are $15 for 6 blades...So you are looking at $100 total for 6 heads and replacements...
My bow shoots fixed just fine and I've killed deer with them since the 60s...Actually the broadheads we have now are much better than
the ones that I used in the 60s and 70s, they killed deer as well...
Why change what works???
I tried 125 Spitfires several years ago and they did fine...The problem is that after the shot, you have to replace the blades, the same with fixed...
I can buy 6 Thunderheads for about $35...Replacement blades are about $20...That's $55 for 6 heads and replacements...
Rage heads are $35 for 3...Blades are $15 for 6 blades...So you are looking at $100 total for 6 heads and replacements...
My bow shoots fixed just fine and I've killed deer with them since the 60s...Actually the broadheads we have now are much better than
the ones that I used in the 60s and 70s, they killed deer as well...
Why change what works???
09-08-2008 | 02:36 PM
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RE: If you are anti-mechanical.......why?
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They are...but these people shouldn't be shooting mechanicals.
You'll have to explain that one. You're implying people who shoot mechanicals are somehow less ethical????????
I find the it funny that people say mechanical broad heads are band aids for poorly tuned bows.
I like to think they are like band aids for poor shooting skills.[]
]
You're implying people who shoot mechanicals are somehow less ethical????????I shoot them in the lungs for that reason.
An R.P.G. would most likely leave a better blood trail but since I watch them fall ,I'm not seeing the necessity, I'll be sticking to thunderheads.[:-]
It has nothing to do with ethics, its shooting ability I'm talking about. A two inch hole is no better than a 1 5/8 inch hole ifboth are in the earth under the deer.
09-08-2008 | 02:36 PM
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RE: If you are anti-mechanical.......why?
For my personal equipment, Ipractice the KISS methodology. 
im not anti-mechanical....im just having a HECK of a time convincing myself to use them...dont NEED to convince myself of anything...
but i have a mental block that mechanicals are just that...MECHANICAL...ive had it pounded in my brain and confirmed 10000 times over..ANYTHING mechanical CAN AND WILL FAIL sooner or later. period. saftey on a rifle, action of an autoloader, your car parts, the fan in your house, whatever....
and i see those loose blades and all that...i know they are held on by a prettttty small screw in all the instances i can think of....just how hard is it to sear that small screw and have your blade fall off??? not very!
for the record, ive fired jack-knife style mechanicals and Rocky Mountain Snypers..both performed excellent on targets....blow some VERY impressive holes into the foam and fruit ive shot with them...
but, i guess the long and short of it is for me is if it aint broke, dont try fixing it! my fixed heads are always open...*a fair bit* are tougher than any expandable out there on the market right now...so for my fixed head to do ITS job, it has to 1)be sharp and 2)hit the correct spot and it WILL do its job.
just my feelings and why i havent used an expandable on game. believe me, those Rage holes are impressive...does alot more cutting than a standard 2 or 3 or 4 blade fixed head does....and id simply love to blow holes in deer like that to ensure i do as much damage to it as possible....but, they are finally making pretty large cutting fixed heads...i'll let others test them this season...and likely screw em on my arrows next season....my Muzzys aint broke..work great...but a bigger cut is better if you have the energy and momentum for it, which i do
but i have a mental block that mechanicals are just that...MECHANICAL...ive had it pounded in my brain and confirmed 10000 times over..ANYTHING mechanical CAN AND WILL FAIL sooner or later. period. saftey on a rifle, action of an autoloader, your car parts, the fan in your house, whatever....
and i see those loose blades and all that...i know they are held on by a prettttty small screw in all the instances i can think of....just how hard is it to sear that small screw and have your blade fall off??? not very!
for the record, ive fired jack-knife style mechanicals and Rocky Mountain Snypers..both performed excellent on targets....blow some VERY impressive holes into the foam and fruit ive shot with them...
but, i guess the long and short of it is for me is if it aint broke, dont try fixing it! my fixed heads are always open...*a fair bit* are tougher than any expandable out there on the market right now...so for my fixed head to do ITS job, it has to 1)be sharp and 2)hit the correct spot and it WILL do its job.
just my feelings and why i havent used an expandable on game. believe me, those Rage holes are impressive...does alot more cutting than a standard 2 or 3 or 4 blade fixed head does....and id simply love to blow holes in deer like that to ensure i do as much damage to it as possible....but, they are finally making pretty large cutting fixed heads...i'll let others test them this season...and likely screw em on my arrows next season....my Muzzys aint broke..work great...but a bigger cut is better if you have the energy and momentum for it, which i do