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if anyone here has an answer for "me", not GMMAT.

I want to know one thing. If you or someone you know has ever hunted a High Fence hunt, please tell me why.

1. For meat?
2. For antlers?
3. It was free hunt?
4. Because I/they could not get out of state tags or land?
5. Because I/they could not be successful somewhere else?
6. Other

I know it's a forum and some will probably lie, some will avoid like the plague, some may brag, others yet may give an honest answer. So let's hear what you have to say.

LT

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I hunted boars in a high fence area back in the spring of 07. Yes, it was free to me...we wanted the meat, and the mount. Let me tell ya this...that was no easy task. Stalking boars in the mountains of Tennessee was no joke! Yes, it was high fenced but it was the whole FREAKING mountain that was fenced in. That was a workout. I'd do it again too...for another pig!

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If everone will be as honest as you, this thread may actually help me see. Not that I want to hunt like that, because I would never.

LT

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What? No more honest folk here?:D

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LT, I never have. I have to say, as I did in GMMAT's thread, that if there is a ton of land that is fenced and the deer can elude hunters the way they should be able to, then I really don't have a problem with these hunts. It's the tight quarters high fenced hunts that I don't agree with. You know, the type you seewhere they have regular feeding "stations". And all the deer meet there at certain times, and you simply "choose" which buck you want tokill/buy. That's the crap I don't like. Did this help any?

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I would never spend my money on one . I WOULD go on a free hunt tho .... my brother did it once with pigs ..... he'll never do it again ... it wasn't like NC's experience ....

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X2, Did the exact same thing in March one year. It was a fun thing to do when we couldn't hunt anything else. And they make neat looking mounts too.

I'd rather hunt pigs in a fence than on my hunting property. They will tear up your hunting grounds!!!

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Yes, I have for hogs and would again, in fact I'm planning on it.

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Yes, in South Africa and parts of Botswana. Were talking about 10k+ acre farms here thathaveto combatpoaching/illegal trapping to ensure their livelyhood. I don't regret it, and I plan on returning in the near future.

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never have hunted in a fenced in place. Doubt I ever will, I said it before, I think it takes the wholesomeness out of it, but that's my own opinion, others can do as they please and I won't tell they are wrong, some people would rather have things in their favor.

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I haven't done it but certianly would do it for exotics, maybe to take a younger hunter on a management hunt early season,I was thinkingof takingmy boys when they were 10 even though hunting age in WI is 12. I'd take an elderly hunter on one for elk, maybe some other reasons. Darned expensive meat so not for that reason.

I shoot placed phesants for dog training. I don't see the difference you still have to make the shot.

LT "never" is a really long time.....

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I went on a fenced hog hunt about 10 years ago. I think it was a couple thousand acres in Tennessee. I went with a group of about 10 people and actually, I did not hunt, but went along to take pictures.

The pluses:
Great comraderie, great food, lodge owners were great hosts. Hunted with dogs and I just love watching trained hunting dogs work no matter what type of hunting. The dogs were great because they were really well socialized too. That makes it all the better. We walked A LOT and got lots of exercise. The first day we worked hard, but never got a shot. The second day, three people in my small group were able to take a boar.

The minuses:
Even though we and the dogs walked A LOT and put forth a lot of physical effort, when it was all said and done, every kill that I saw was in visible range of the fence. Basically, the dogs chased until they were able to stop some hogs near the fence. I did not like that.

I definitely had a good time and would not fault anyone who wanted to do that kind of hunting, but it is definitely not something I would do again. I'm glad I went though so I could see what it was like first hand and not just from hearing about it. High fence hunting is not for me.

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Hogs are the only animal I would hunt in a pen. Why you ask? For the meat I say. I'll shoot a hog in a barnyard pen for the meat. They have to be put down before they are butchered.

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My buddy spent an outrageous amount of money to hunt a high fence operation in Ohio last year. What a joke he ended up killing a 145" 8 point but couldnt eat any of the meat because it had been tranquilized within that week. I kid you not, the "guide", who was amish,actually asked my buddy to drive him to a farm several hours away to pick up a 190" buck that a dentist was going to shoot the following day. They drove there, tranquilized it and drove it back to the farm. My buddy left the following day and as of then it hadnt been shot but i'm assuming it was.My buddydid this soley for the horns. I make fun of him every chance i get. I call it the "Cambell Buck" because it was canned just like the soup.

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So what if it is!! I would never do it either.

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I'll Spill;)

Last winter, I was invited on a high fenced pig hunt. Not pigs, as in boars...Pigs. Domesticated pigs.

This took place in Northern MN. It costed 175$/2 person team. It was actually a contest, with twenty toal teams.You and you're partner take off and go after 3 pigs in a 40 acre fence. Two of the pigs were fair game, the other a "penalty pig" adding an additional 5 min to you're total time. You each take three arrows, every arrow launched you add 2 min to you're total time.

I went for a few reasons:

A) I wanted a pig to test out the new roaster my best friend and I made.
B) a pro-staffer from a reputable company invited us
C) There was a good cash prize (300$)
D) I figured it'd be good practice
E) The pigs were going to slaughter, anyway.

A few reasons I won't go back

A) The people there weren't my cup of tea. Actually, it was the first time I'd met all of them, and I hope I never meet them again. (Besides the dude who invited me)
B) Long drive
C) No sport involved, too easy, almost boring.
D) Been there, done the high fence thing, confirmed my prior thoughts on the whole deal.



We ended up winning the "contest" by a land slide. I didn't have much fun, but I got to roast a free pig. It was delicious. No more fences, for me.

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Let me also add, I wouldn't call it hunting, I'd call it trying to shoot a pig in a pen.;)

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I did once, and after was totally disgusted with myself. They asked me if I wanted the cape. I shook my head and said, "nope". Everybody was shocked.But it was about the only chance I will get to hunt with my brother. Andafterabout a decadeof tension and fighting between him and I, it was worth it to hang with him, and see him happy and actually take a break in life and heal our relationship a tad. I will continue to hunt bird preserves. Real good practice for ducks, and fun training the dogs.

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Rob let give you some advice

NEVER shoot a farmers hog without permission, who knew they were so damn lound after getting stuck with an arrow[&:] From what my mothers remembers I squeled louder:D

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Yes I have. Because it's legal and I can.

For the record I did not kill a deer. Ranch was 8000 acres.

This thread alone, due to the poor response tell me that most of you are talking out of your asses about hunting high fence. If every one of the holier than thou hunters had hunted a legitimate high fence operation and not a 30 acre pen, then you would have a right to run your mouth about them. I would bet that most of you would come back having eaten humble pie.

If you hunted one of the 30 acre pens expecting to have a fair chase hunt well.......that's all I have to say about that.

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Most of my youth was spenttrying forwallhangers in an enclosure less than 3 acres. Yeah it was small, and they couldn't get away, but that didn't make it easy.I still take my sons there a few times a year. Nothing like fishing a good farm pond.;)

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I would never go on a hunt where the kill was guaranteed. I agree with the above posters that say hunting free ranging animals on large acre fenced areas, such as 5000+ acres is not really a canned hunt.

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Sounds to me like a bit of a guilty conscience.[8D]

Your first sentence would have been enough of an answer to suffice. No need to go bashing.:D

Yes, and it means the same to me as "forever". I say what I mean and mean what I say.

Interesting responses.

LT

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I did not say going to pick up lunch Rob.[8D]Oh, but I guess that's what high fence hunting is, huh?:DI guess instead of Mr. Butt's Pulled Pork Sandwiches it could be Mr. Backstrap's Bar b Que Bambi.

LT

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High fenced (cannedor big acres )isn'tfor me... but then baiting for deer, mechanical broadheads, road hunting and party hunting aren't for me either. That is the great thing abouthunting andlife in general...thechoices we can and get tomake. We don'tneed to evenexperience them first handto make a choice for or against.

Never is a really long time. :)I do like a good bait for trapping and fishingthough. Would have no problem shooting a bear over bait either. I would consider a mechanical broadhead for turkey hunting.Yep the choice of adouble standardisa good thing too. ;) :D

Tim

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A lot of people think if its a "large" area that it justifies the high fence. That is pure BS. I don't care if its 100,000 acres the fact is that its still fenced. That animalyou killed (if given the chance) might have moved onto another farm or five miles down the road.

The fact is that the fence kept it there. PERIOD!!!

All forms of high fenced hunting should be banned. PERIOD!!! We have enough to fight PETA and the anti's over. The public view is still going to see it as shooting caged animals.

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Thanks.;)

I've hunted released pheasants on a 60,000 acre preserve in Nebraska (free, to me, also). Fair Chase (no fence), but let's be real. They were certainly easier to kill than wild birds (I'm assuming that).....although I'm sure there were some wild birds in there, as well.

What each person takes away from such an experience is "theirs", period. You wanna hunt over bait? Have at it. If its legal I won't question your means, methods or diminish your accomplishment.

Would I consider it "hunting"? Nope. But hey, that's me. I'm not the one doing it. Each individual is the SOLE arbiter of what he/she derives from their time afield. Translation.....it's personal.

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Actually SNTOM,

The fact is the fence does hinder "them" slightly. My experience has been that the animals move freely from one side to the other. I hunt both sides because I love to hunt! I would hunt an island because I love to hunt. I would hunt a mountain because I love to hunt.Enough said.

LT, Are you on a witch hunt, a lambbasting, or something? If this is not for you, then "why" do you care? Moreover, when people are honest. you lash out at them. Why? Leave it be buddy! Let's go kill an elk!

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I guess we should all check our signatures.;)

I was waiting for your response, Will. You still coming?:)

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I have to go with "never" also.

Of course I've "never" done herion either maybe I would like that too.;)

Ishunting in a pen only for those whom are directionally challenged.[:-]

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Jim we all have our vices. I'd never let myself get so out of shape physically that it became unhealthy.

But to each his own. We pick our poisons.

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Jim.

There aremillions ofteatottlers out there that would take serious issue with your signature. Seems to me, you're no different than them! You are free to move about the country...

Cast those stones boys!

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Just one question. If you guys are so proud of your pennedtrophy's why do they take the yellow ear tags out when you get them mounted?[:-]

Not that theres anything wrong with that.;)

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That's a lot of assuming, there. And I could make a few of my own about people's choices/vices/etc.... but I'll refrain.;)

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I can say no matter how much money I have I will NEVER hunt go on on high fenced hunt or similar ranch style hunt for ANY animal. All these people that run these places are just pimps plain and simple. They prostitute the deer or what ever animal they have there penned up or fenced in.

I also will not hunt from a truck, over bait or go on a deer drive. It's all about fair chase for meand if it was easy there would be no deer.

But hey if it is legal I am not going to tell anyone they shouldn't hunt this way it's your choice just as it is my choice not to do it.

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GREAT post! All you that judge everyone can stick this quote in yer corn pipe and smoke it :D

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Hey Steve,

Would you do it if I asked you to help cull six elk inside a 1200 acreoak brush ranch? The elk need to be killed before the fence can be removed. It won't cost you a penny! We just need your expertises...

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Hey Will....Here's a good quote I read one time from Tom Watson...

"I'd never date a stripper, Either!"

Yeah,....right.

;)

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You say, "But hey if it is legal I am not going to tell anyone they shouldn't hunt this way it's your choice just as it is my choice not to do it."

Right after you made statements like, "All these people that run these places are just pimps plain and simple. They prostitute the deer or what ever animal they have there penned up or fenced in." and "I also will not hunt over bait or go on a deer drive. It's all about fair chase for meand if it was easy there would be no deer."

Here is one of the biggest problems with people today ... assuming. You assume ALL high fence operations are the same.... You assume that hunting over bait or doing deer drives are not fair chase and they make it so easy that deer would be killed off ..:eek:

Ignorance is no excuse for judging what others do .... whether it's judging the person or the action ... now I'm talking about things that are legal.

Some of you guys kill me :eek:and I'm not just talking about Steve ....

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PT,

Let's assume alcohol destroys brain cells, and brain cells are required to formulate rational thoughts/opinions. Withoutsuch brain cells, we can also assume a normal adult may be subject to the thinking capacity of an 8-13 year old? Is it safe to assume, then, that such an individual could be referred to as moronic?;)