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bigcountry 08-07-2008 10:15 AM

RE: Time to see...
 

ORIGINAL: hillbillyhunter1


ORIGINAL: bigcountry


ORIGINAL: Doegirl75

My hog hunt last July was at a high fenced operation. By far, the most physically strenuous (and dangerous) hunt I've been on.
One thing, I have noticed about wild hogs. If you give them room to escape, you will never get charged. If they get cornered, and push comes to shove, you can get ran over fairly quickly by hogs.

[joke] I heard in KY, hogs really hate to get cornered, not because they're scared of dieing either:D[/joke]
Hey now, thats a WV joke not Ky. :D

Schultzy 08-07-2008 10:16 AM

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ORIGINAL: brucelanthier


ORIGINAL: Schultzy


ORIGINAL: brucelanthier


ORIGINAL: Schultzy

You cannot compare bear baiting/hunting to high fence hunting. Thats crazy!!
You are using artificial means (bait/fence) to get the game you are after.
Its the only fricking way to do it where I hunt!!!!!!! I stated earlier I've bear hunted for 17 years and I've been successful 9 of them 17 years. Do the math Bruce. High fence hunt, the stats would blow mine out of the water!
So, you're saying that if you had 5000 acres fenced where you bear hunt now, you could have killed a bear 17 out of 17 years without using bait?
Never said that, hell no I wouldn't be that succcessful! High fenced deer hunting is another story though. Come talk to me when you know a thing or 2 about bear hunting. Until then your words are down right degrading to any bear hunter out there who has no choice to hunt the way I do because of the terrain.

Badger_Girl93 08-07-2008 10:22 AM

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ORIGINAL: Schultzy

Come talk to me when you know a thing or 2 about bear hunting. Until then your words are down right degrading to any bear hunter out there who has no choice to hunt the way I do because of the terrain.
You have a choice...you just choose a legal method that increases your chances at success....no harm or shame in it...just the facts.



brucelanthier 08-07-2008 10:26 AM

RE: Time to see...
 

ORIGINAL: Schultzy


ORIGINAL: brucelanthier


ORIGINAL: Schultzy


ORIGINAL: brucelanthier


ORIGINAL: Schultzy

You cannot compare bear baiting/hunting to high fence hunting. Thats crazy!!
You are using artificial means (bait/fence) to get the game you are after.
Its the only fricking way to do it where I hunt!!!!!!! I stated earlier I've bear hunted for 17 years and I've been successful 9 of them 17 years. Do the math Bruce. High fence hunt, the stats would blow mine out of the water!
So, you're saying that if you had 5000 acres fenced where you bear hunt now, you could have killed a bear 17 out of 17 years without using bait?
Never said that, hell no I wouldn't be that succcessful! High fenced deer hunting is another story though. Come talk to me when you know a thing or 2 about bear hunting. Until then your words are down right degrading to any bear hunter out there who has no choice to hunt the way I do because of the terrain.
High fenced bear hunting would be OK but not high fenced deer hunting?

Since I should come talk to you when I "know a thing or two about bear hunting" does that mean you know a thing or two about high fence hunting? You are making a lot of claims concerning high fence hunting.

You don't think your words are degrading to someone that hunts high fence because they have no choice?

cooter144 08-07-2008 10:27 AM

RE: Time to see...
 

ORIGINAL: Badger_Girl93


ORIGINAL: Schultzy

Come talk to me when you know a thing or 2 about bear hunting. Until then your words are down right degrading to any bear hunter out there who has no choice to hunt the way I do because of the terrain.
You have a choice...you just choose a legal method that increases your chances at success....no harm or shame in it...just the facts.


I don't know ifANY bears would be killed with bow in MN without baiting. You obvoisly have no clue about the typed of habitat that these animals live in MN. This is not like on TV where people are stalkingbears open areas and seeing them from a distance. If there were not baiting in MN there would literally be no bear hunting period.

Schultzy 08-07-2008 10:27 AM

RE: Time to see...
 

ORIGINAL: Badger_Girl93


ORIGINAL: Schultzy

Come talk to me when you know a thing or 2 about bear hunting. Until then your words are down right degrading to any bear hunter out there who has no choice to hunt the way I do because of the terrain.
You have a choice...you just choose a legal method that increases your chances at success....no harm or shame in it...just the facts.


No shame in it at all. If that wasn't a choice the people who live in northern Mn would be in a world of problems with all the nuisance bear problems. The CO's wouldn't be able to handle the problem.

hillbillyhunter1 08-07-2008 10:29 AM

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You don't think your words are degrading to someone that hunts high fence because they have no choice?
who would that be???

Badger_Girl93 08-07-2008 10:33 AM

RE: Time to see...
 

ORIGINAL: cooter144


ORIGINAL: Badger_Girl93


ORIGINAL: Schultzy

Come talk to me when you know a thing or 2 about bear hunting. Until then your words are down right degrading to any bear hunter out there who has no choice to hunt the way I do because of the terrain.
You have a choice...you just choose a legal method that increases your chances at success....no harm or shame in it...just the facts.


I don't know ifANY bears would be killed with bow in MN without baiting. You obvoisly have no clue about the typed of habitat that these animals live in MN. This is not like on TV where people are stalkingbears open areas and seeing them from a distance. If there were not baiting in MN there would literally be no bear hunting period.
I didn't say it would be easy to be successful without bait. I just said you have a choice. It's a simple fact...nothing to argue really.

brucelanthier 08-07-2008 10:34 AM

RE: Time to see...
 

ORIGINAL: hillbillyhunter1


You don't think your words are degrading to someone that hunts high fence because they have no choice?
who would that be???
Same type of people that bait bears because they have no choice ;).

Bowtech 360 08-07-2008 10:36 AM

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If it is legal, why should we disaggree with it, I dont like taxes but I have to pay them, I dont like baiting but if I have to get a bear I bait.



P.S I work under the table and dont pay taxes cuz im young.

Schultzy 08-07-2008 10:38 AM

RE: Time to see...
 

ORIGINAL: brucelanthier


ORIGINAL: Schultzy


ORIGINAL: brucelanthier


ORIGINAL: Schultzy


ORIGINAL: brucelanthier


ORIGINAL: Schultzy

You cannot compare bear baiting/hunting to high fence hunting. Thats crazy!!
You are using artificial means (bait/fence) to get the game you are after.
Its the only fricking way to do it where I hunt!!!!!!! I stated earlier I've bear hunted for 17 years and I've been successful 9 of them 17 years. Do the math Bruce. High fence hunt, the stats would blow mine out of the water!
So, you're saying that if you had 5000 acres fenced where you bear hunt now, you could have killed a bear 17 out of 17 years without using bait?
Never said that, hell no I wouldn't be that succcessful! High fenced deer hunting is another story though. Come talk to me when you know a thing or 2 about bear hunting. Until then your words are down right degrading to any bear hunter out there who has no choice to hunt the way I do because of the terrain.
High fenced bear hunting would be OK but not high fenced deer hunting?

Since I should come talk to you when I "know a thing or two about bear hunting" does that mean you know a thing or two about high fence hunting? You are making a lot of claims concerning high fence hunting.

You don't think your words are degrading to someone that hunts high fence because they have no choice?
Come on up here and say that baiting is like high fence hunting and you will get blasted by a ton of Minnesotans and Canadians. I give up Bruce!! Go ahead and promote this high fence hunting, Its good for hunting anyway right. Do what you think is right, I don't care anymore.

brucelanthier 08-07-2008 10:41 AM

RE: Time to see...
 

ORIGINAL: Schultzy

Go ahead and promote this high fence hunting, Its good for hunting anyway right.
It is as good for hunting as baiting is ;).

Badger_Girl93 08-07-2008 10:46 AM

RE: Time to see...
 

ORIGINAL: Schultzy

Come on up here and say that baiting is like high fence hunting and you will get blasted by a ton of Minnesotans and Canadians.

LOL

virginiashadow 08-07-2008 10:48 AM

RE: Time to see...
 
All we are saying is give peace a chance
All we are saying is give peace a chance

nctaxi 08-07-2008 11:07 AM

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Now we begin to see the root of our problems. I have hunted bears over bait and baited them, I also plan on hunting a hihg fence enclosure. If you plan on hunting Africa, you will hunt high fence. The problem is that we will continue to divide ourselves until we are conquered by the animal rights people. Plain and simple. Here's a question for you guys, how many of you hunt more than 100 acres? 500? 1000? 10,000? I hunt one place that is 20 acres between 2 subdivisions, am a somehow lower on the hunting totem pole because the 20 acres is about the only area that deer can roam? Almost high fence? Just 20 acres, mind you. The deer really follow a regular pattern. I bet most of you guys don't even hunt 500 acres, so what would you do in 5000? Let he is without sin, cast the first stone.

Doegirl75 08-07-2008 11:30 AM

RE: Time to see...
 

ORIGINAL: bigcountry


ORIGINAL: Doegirl75

My hog hunt last July was at a high fenced operation. By far, the most physically strenuous (and dangerous) hunt I've been on.
One thing, I have noticed about wild hogs. If you give them room to escape, you will never get charged. If they get cornered, and push comes to shove, you can get ran over fairly quickly by hogs.
Never did get charged. But the hogs did have a nasty habit of staying put until you darn near stepped on 'em . Then they exploded out of the brush.Sounded like friggen Clydesdales galloping through the woods.:DIt's amazing how well those pigsdo hide.

LouisianaTomkat 08-07-2008 11:36 AM

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I will now place my answer to the question of my thread.

High Fence hunting is done to take an animal for many reasons. (as the posts tend to go)

Like many things in life, we all have differing opinions, likes and dislikes. Yet, to fence in the wildlife so that they can be hunted is kind of taking the definition of hunting away.

When you go,... if you go, on a high fence hunt, by all means enjoy yourself. If it is your definition of hunting, so be it. It is not mine. The freedom of the wild is what hunting is all about. Animals can and have been tamed. Some, not so much as others. Our ancestors never dreamed of fencing in the "wild" animals. Most, if not all, livestock at one time roamed freely. for "produce" purposes though, they were more or less domesticated to fields and lots. So, in closing, please be aware of what you are doing and be a good example.

I am OUT.

LT

GMMAT 08-07-2008 11:49 AM

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This should say," In my opinion ", instead of "Thats the DEFINITION of ", since you lack experience on 2 out of the 3 areas you are making the statement on.

Sliver, sliver, sliver....

Sir you missed the entire point.

When you view one form of legal hunting as "OK"....but turn your nose to the sky and condemn another form of legal hunting.......you've applied a "double standard". Insert whatever types of legal hunting you'd wish....for any game you desire.

The definition doesn't change.

hillbillyhunter1 08-07-2008 12:08 PM

RE: Time to see...
 
Do you need a hunting license to "hunt" in a "high fence"???

PreacherTony 08-07-2008 12:18 PM

RE: Time to see...
 

ORIGINAL: LouisianaTomkat

I will now place my answer to the question of my thread.

High Fence hunting is done to take an animal for many reasons. (as the posts tend to go)

Like many things in life, we all have differing opinions, likes and dislikes. Yet, to fence in the wildlife so that they can be hunted is kind of taking the definition of hunting away.

When you go,... if you go, on a high fence hunt, by all means enjoy yourself. If it is your definition of hunting, so be it. It is not mine. The freedom of the wild is what hunting is all about. Animals can and have been tamed. Some, not so much as others. Our ancestors never dreamed of fencing in the "wild" animals. Most, if not all, livestock at one time roamed freely. for "produce" purposes though, they were more or less domesticated to fields and lots. So, in closing, please be aware of what you are doing and be a good example.

I am OUT.

LT
Let me try and enlighten some of you as to how some feel ....

When it comes to the term, "restraint", there are many different kinds .... there is
Physical - fence, cuffs, rope, etc.
Mental - fear
ENVIRONMENTAL - this would be baiting, money, etc
Medical - drugs

All these constitute restraining in some way or another ...............

Like it or not...

BTW, I am not "against" either ...

GMMAT 08-07-2008 12:23 PM

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PT....Kinda remind you of the Jim Zumbo incident?;)

PreacherTony 08-07-2008 12:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT

PT....Kinda remind you of the Jim Zumbo incident?;)
please elaborate ....

GMMAT 08-07-2008 12:38 PM

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Jim Zumbo was quoted, last year, saying he didn't see a need for assault type weapons.....and that he wouldn't be upset if they were banned.

He lost a LOT of sponsors...and was damn near railroaded out of the industry, until he publicly apologized several times. Hell he even had to endure Uncle Ted berating him on national TV in a backhanded manner over his comments.

He learned a valuable lesson through it all.;)

GrayDawg 08-07-2008 01:10 PM

RE: Time to see...
 
never hunted HF

LouisianaTomkat 08-07-2008 02:57 PM

RE: Time to see...
 

Jim Zumbo was quoted, last year, saying he didn't see a need for assault type weapons.....and that he wouldn't be upset if they were banned.

He lost a LOT of sponsors...and was damn near railroaded out of the industry, until he publicly apologized several times. Hell he even had to endure Uncle Ted berating him on national TV in a backhanded manner over his comments.

He learned a valuable lesson through it all

Yeah, he learned a valuable lesson alright. If you ain't a sack rider, you may lose your good reputation. Whatever. If he had the balls to say it to begin with, he should have stuck to it and told Ted to kiss his pale, pasty butt. When you succumb to lo life crap like that, you ought to have your rights taken away.

By the way, why do people own Assault Weapons? I know we have the right to bear arms, but is that not a little overkill? (pardon the pun) I mean can you not kill just as many people with a Remington Wingmaster?

LT


gbrownlee 08-07-2008 03:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: nctaxi

If you plan on hunting Africa, you will hunt high fence.

That is not true at all. Yes a lot of South Africa and some of Namibia is, but there is hardly any in Zambia, Botswana, Tanzania or any of thecentral africancountries.

Other than thatI agree with you post..

PreacherTony 08-07-2008 03:10 PM

RE: Time to see...
 

ORIGINAL: LouisianaTomkat


Jim Zumbo was quoted, last year, saying he didn't see a need for assault type weapons.....and that he wouldn't be upset if they were banned.

He lost a LOT of sponsors...and was damn near railroaded out of the industry, until he publicly apologized several times. Hell he even had to endure Uncle Ted berating him on national TV in a backhanded manner over his comments.

He learned a valuable lesson through it all

Yeah, he learned a valuable lesson alright. If you ain't a sack rider, you may lose your good reputation. Whatever. If he had the balls to say it to begin with, he should have stuck to it and told Ted to kiss his pale, pasty butt. When you succumb to lo life crap like that, you ought to have your rights taken away.

By the way, why do people own Assault Weapons? I know we have the right to bear arms, but is that not a little overkill? (pardon the pun) I mean can you not kill just as many people with a Remington Wingmaster?

LT

Trying to open up another can, LT? [:-]

GMMAT 08-07-2008 03:13 PM

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They just don't get it, PT.

You're either WITH us....or against us.

It's THAT FREAKIN SIMPLE.

LouisianaTomkat 08-07-2008 03:22 PM

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With Who? I am not for anything that is immoral, illegal, unhealthy, harmful to the public, harmful to me or my family, or yours for that matter. So Who? are we talking about? Do I think Assault weapons are harmful? Yes in the wrong hands. So is a million other things. Wrong is wrong and right is right. There are no gray areas. What would Ted say if someone said they wouldn't mind if Rock and Roll was banned because it caused hearing loss? None of us have to be berated by anyone for anything. We do have to answer for what we do though. You will reap what you sow.



Trying to open up another can, LT?
Might as well PT. Jeff ain't got nothing better to do.:D

LT

bawanajim 08-07-2008 03:32 PM

RE: Time to see...
 

ORIGINAL: LouisianaTomkat


Jim Zumbo was quoted, last year, saying he didn't see a need for assault type weapons.....and that he wouldn't be upset if they were banned.

He lost a LOT of sponsors...and was damn near railroaded out of the industry, until he publicly apologized several times. Hell he even had to endure Uncle Ted berating him on national TV in a backhanded manner over his comments.

He learned a valuable lesson through it all

Yeah, he learned a valuable lesson alright. If you ain't a sack rider, you may lose your good reputation. Whatever. If he had the balls to say it to begin with, he should have stuck to it and told Ted to kiss his pale, pasty butt. When you succumb to lo life crap like that, you ought to have your rights taken away.

By the way, why do people own Assault Weapons? I know we have the right to bear arms, but is that not a little overkill? (pardon the pun) I mean can you not kill just as many people with a Remington Wingmaster?

LT

Yea but you wouldn't look as cool with an old pump gun as a punk in black trench coat with two 30 rounders taped together heading for the gym class locker room.
Its all about appearance don't ca know.;)

LouisianaTomkat 08-07-2008 03:35 PM

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Yea but you wouldn't look as cool with an old pump gun as a punk in black trench coat with two 30 rounders taped together heading for the gym class locker room.
Its all about appearance don't ca know.;)

Exactly.;)

PreacherTony 08-07-2008 03:38 PM

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HNI has proved that closed minded people will be close minded with everything THEY don't do, have a use for, or understand ......[&o]

GMMAT 08-07-2008 03:41 PM

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If you take Jim Zumbo's GAFFE as your stance....then you're aligning yourself right alongside those who would seek to take away our second amendment rights. Period. He saw the error of his ways and recanted.

If you'll condemn a legal method of hunting as being "unethical", "immoral" or otherwise.....you're playing the SAME HAND.

That's my opinion on that.;)

bawanajim 08-07-2008 03:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: PreacherTony

HNI has proved that closed minded people will be close minded with everything THEY don't do, have a use for, or understand ......[&o]
Or proud enough to stand up and speak their minds .;)

A closed mouth has never won a debate.Neither has a closed mind.[:-]

Canned hunting is wrong, always has been and always will be.

Standing by and being tolerant of those whom willfully do wrong is not a virtue.[:o]

GMMAT 08-07-2008 03:45 PM

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PT I think you meant "don't" have a use for and "don't" understand.....but I get your point.;)

PreacherTony 08-07-2008 03:51 PM

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ORIGINAL: bawanajim


ORIGINAL: PreacherTony

HNI has proved that closed minded people will be close minded with everything THEY don't do, have a use for, or understand ......[&o]
Or proud enough to stand up and speak their minds .;)

A closed mouth has never won a debate.Neither has a closed mind.[:-]

Canned hunting is wrong, always has been and always will be.

Standing by and being tolerant of those whom willfully do wrong is not a virtue.[:o]
YOUR definition od wrong is not everyone's defintion of wrong ..... why can't you see that? I agree with you on many things, Jim ....... but you are CLOSED minded if you can't give others the liberty to do what they like to do in the guidelines of the law ...... I wouldn't go on a canned hunt unless it was free ...... but to those that do it, all the power to them .... whatever floats their boat ....

bawanajim 08-07-2008 03:57 PM

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Are you so open minded when it comes to partial birth abortions?

They are legal right.

Killing is killing ...............right?










Understanding my side yet?

dukemichaels 08-07-2008 03:58 PM

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HNI has proved that closed minded people will be close minded with everything THEY don't do, have a use for, or understand
This is so true with everything in life.

It's because of fear. Fear that what one does.. may not always be correct.. which gives one no control.. ultimately leading to hate.

You really are a preacher.:)





PreacherTony 08-07-2008 04:00 PM

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ORIGINAL: bawanajim

Are you so open minded when it comes to partial birth abortions?

They are legal right.

Killing is killing ...............right?










Understanding my side yet?
You are comparing a human being witha soul to an animal with no soul? :eek:I get your point .... but it makes ZERO sense

bawanajim 08-07-2008 04:11 PM

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Whom performs abortions?...........Soul less Dr?


Same as canned hunters....Soul less.;)


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