Opinions on Crossbows
#72
I have noticed that everyone always seems to forget to mention the use of scopes on CB's, and their light gathering abilities. Anyway, I just "choose" not to hunt with mine anymore because "Ibelieve" it's too easy. This is just my "opinion".
#73
Giant Nontypical
Joined: Feb 2003
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Oh, we must disdain crossbows for having scope mounting capability! But wait... What? You can put them on conventional bows too? Even RECURVES??
Stiennen Telescopic Bowsight 1963

Some define 'traditional' as anything predating compounds in the late 60's. By some definitions, mounting a telescopic sight on a bow is traditional. We've still got scope mounts using long eye relief scopes for bows today. Some who visit this forum use them and still others swear by using red dots on their bows. So I have to say that's an argument rendered moot.
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Rereading, my sarcastic humor looks a little overboard. Shoulda put in a ton of smilies.
Just pointing out one reason why the scope issue hadn't been brought up. It's one of those things that can't be griped about with crossbows that can't apply just as equally to compounds. Even though scope users are a small minority, the capability is there. Just as the capability is there to use a crossbow with peeps and pins, or even no sights at all.
Stiennen Telescopic Bowsight 1963

Some define 'traditional' as anything predating compounds in the late 60's. By some definitions, mounting a telescopic sight on a bow is traditional. We've still got scope mounts using long eye relief scopes for bows today. Some who visit this forum use them and still others swear by using red dots on their bows. So I have to say that's an argument rendered moot.
edit:
Rereading, my sarcastic humor looks a little overboard. Shoulda put in a ton of smilies.

Just pointing out one reason why the scope issue hadn't been brought up. It's one of those things that can't be griped about with crossbows that can't apply just as equally to compounds. Even though scope users are a small minority, the capability is there. Just as the capability is there to use a crossbow with peeps and pins, or even no sights at all.
#74
I have yet to see a recurve with a scope on it and I'm 34 years old and have been around traditional bows all my life. But then again the group of traditional hunters I hunt and hang out with are not big archery/target/competition gurus. Were more into the bow hunting aspect of it.
#75
Giant Nontypical
Joined: Feb 2003
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I'm 56 and have seen a whole bunch of stuff used on recurves that traditional guys today would be up in arms about. All manner of sights and mechanical rests, release aids, stabilizers, mechanical broadheads... Honestly, what we call traditional archery today is a highly idealized invention. There used to be a great many aiming systems and shooting styles that are now considered not traditional for example. At this point in history, archery is at it's very lowest level of diversity that has ever been.
If you've never spent an hour or two looking at stuff on www.archeryhistory.com you should. It's incredible how many things were tried back in the olden days. It's even more incredible how many of those old ideas failed at the time, only to return as 'hot new technology' today.
If you've never spent an hour or two looking at stuff on www.archeryhistory.com you should. It's incredible how many things were tried back in the olden days. It's even more incredible how many of those old ideas failed at the time, only to return as 'hot new technology' today.
#76
ORIGINAL: Arthur P
I'm 56 and have seen a whole bunch of stuff used on recurves that traditional guys today would be up in arms about. All manner of sights and mechanical rests, release aids, stabilizers, mechanical broadheads... Honestly, what we call traditional archery today is a highly idealized invention. There used to be a great many aiming systems and shooting styles that are now considered not traditional for example. At this point in history, archery is at it's very lowest level of diversity that has ever been.
If you've never spent an hour or two looking at stuff on www.archeryhistory.com you should. It's incredible how many things were tried back in the olden days. It's even more incredible how many of those old ideas failed at the time, only to return as 'hot new technology' today.
I'm 56 and have seen a whole bunch of stuff used on recurves that traditional guys today would be up in arms about. All manner of sights and mechanical rests, release aids, stabilizers, mechanical broadheads... Honestly, what we call traditional archery today is a highly idealized invention. There used to be a great many aiming systems and shooting styles that are now considered not traditional for example. At this point in history, archery is at it's very lowest level of diversity that has ever been.
If you've never spent an hour or two looking at stuff on www.archeryhistory.com you should. It's incredible how many things were tried back in the olden days. It's even more incredible how many of those old ideas failed at the time, only to return as 'hot new technology' today.

#77
It's a shoulder fired weapon, let them keep it in the shoulder fired weapons season.
Fact is, I think all but maybe 2 states allow a person with a handicap to use aX Bowduring the general bow season with a permit or have their own season, and most states allow them in the general gun season.
Problem is the manufactures dont want a pice of the pie, they want the hole pie! So who is the selfish or greedy one here?
If I offer you a pice of my candy and you try to take the hole bag, you better be ready to scrap!
Manufactures and dealers are the push behind the X Bow, it's not Joe blow that actually has a disability and can already hunt the whole dam season!
People like to throw out the numbers for Ohio but always seam to leave out that almost half use the X Bow there now, and I see a problem with that as an archer.
It might not matter in some chicken **** state wheregun hunter numbers are only a few hundred thousand, but it's another story in states like Mi and Penn where you have 3 or 4 times the numbers, I dont care where you learned the math.
We once had a very generous Bow season in this state, now it has been whittled to pices with special interest seasons. Hardly a 2 week period that goes by without a gun going off. I amfed up with manufactures and dealers using the old and handicap as an excuse to cram the X Bow into our bow season when they can already hunt the whole season, if indeed they are handicaped! They are not doing it for the old and handicaped, They are doing it for the 20% of 700,000 gun hunters they can sell X Bows to in this state.
Any one out there get it yet?
It's a gun that shoots a bolt, keep it in the gun season!
Fact is, I think all but maybe 2 states allow a person with a handicap to use aX Bowduring the general bow season with a permit or have their own season, and most states allow them in the general gun season.
Problem is the manufactures dont want a pice of the pie, they want the hole pie! So who is the selfish or greedy one here?
If I offer you a pice of my candy and you try to take the hole bag, you better be ready to scrap!
Manufactures and dealers are the push behind the X Bow, it's not Joe blow that actually has a disability and can already hunt the whole dam season!
People like to throw out the numbers for Ohio but always seam to leave out that almost half use the X Bow there now, and I see a problem with that as an archer.
It might not matter in some chicken **** state wheregun hunter numbers are only a few hundred thousand, but it's another story in states like Mi and Penn where you have 3 or 4 times the numbers, I dont care where you learned the math.
We once had a very generous Bow season in this state, now it has been whittled to pices with special interest seasons. Hardly a 2 week period that goes by without a gun going off. I amfed up with manufactures and dealers using the old and handicap as an excuse to cram the X Bow into our bow season when they can already hunt the whole season, if indeed they are handicaped! They are not doing it for the old and handicaped, They are doing it for the 20% of 700,000 gun hunters they can sell X Bows to in this state.
Any one out there get it yet?
It's a gun that shoots a bolt, keep it in the gun season!
#78
Actually, the official term is FIREarm in reference to thegeneral use of shoulder held weapons like rifles or handheld weapons like pistols.But i guess they could legalize flaming crossbow bolts so that it could fit into firearm season[8D]
#79
Typical Buck
Joined: Mar 2003
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From: McDonough, GA
I don't care if someone hunts with a crossbow, but if they are capable of using a compound, recurve, or longbow, then they 'should' do it. Crossbows are cheater bows, i.e. a bow that someone uses because it's easier even though they 'could' use something else!
#80
I don't care if someone hunts with a crossbow, but if they are capable of using a compound, recurve, or longbow, then they 'should' do it

Crossbows are cheater bows, i.e. a bow that someone uses because it's easier even though they 'could' use something else!


