It creates a different ancor point

Yes but it still changes your overall drawlength too.

If I may quote MeanV from a previous post....

Ok so tell me how it changes your DL ?

A longer draw length DOES change your draw. You are drawing the bow farther back. Some people may not notice it, but I can tell an 1/8" from where I shoot so often and shoot a BT. I know what it "should" feel like.

Once again it only changes your ANCOR point . The draw length is still the same . You can not change a dl from a longer loop

Ok... You connect your release to the string and draw, anchor and shoot.

Now... you connect your release to a 3/4 D-loop and you Draw, bringing the string back 3/4" more than from connecting straight to the string.

Thus... Changing your Anhor AND overal Draw length.

Right?

I've heard that semantical argument for years and years... to me, and maybe I'm letting it get the best of me -- but it's just that: semantics. It's almost like when someone asks a rifle shooter what "minute of angle" means, and someone answers "one inch for every 100 yards." The semantically correct answer would be to say, "No, that's wrong." If you answered that way, you would technically be correct (since MOA is actually 1.0471996 inches at 100 yards), but the person asking the question is still left wondering why not.

No, it doesn't change the BOW'S draw length ... and technically, it doesn't change what the shooter's draw length SHOULD be. Problem is, it changes his effective draw length all things being equal -- because it will move a shooter's anchor point rearward by whatever length the d-loop adds past the point as if he were shooting "off the string." Sometimes this can be a good thing, sometimes not; it all depends on how properly the bow was fitted to the shooter before the addition of a d-loop.

In my case, I'm a true 29" draw length when shooting off the string... I have to shorten my dl anywhere from 1/8" to 1/4" when adding a loop, and that's largely because I tie them so short and use a release head specially designed to not lose dl when using a loop.

Aaron, actually, NO. The draw length of the bow is what it is. If you short change your Ally, it'll take off just as if you creep at full draw. Everyone "usually" draws the bow to the wall and then anchors. The loop is no different. The bow is still at full draw if drawn to the wall and the anchor changes depending on the loop length.

The only time that draw length is compromised according to loop length is on a bow that is not drawn to the wall but no one I know holds a bow at full draw half way to through the valley, or at least they shouldn't.

Nope the Draw length is still the same only your ancor has changed

I stand corrected. I thought i knew more than i did, Im learning.

The Bold is what made it click... Thanks Rob, I understand.

MLBH--- sorry bud