Even if you did......
03-20-2008 | 07:22 AM
#21
Dominant Buck
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RE: Even if you did......
I said this back on Page 1.
So I said this, later....
I stand by this.
So I guess you're saying.......(and I don't want to put words in your mouth, Greg)
And there's nothing wrong with this POV....if you believe that.
What's the premise? That they are "successful" right off the bat? Give them a season? Two?
Given the same learning curve as the original hunter is how I'm basing my point. Do I think someone could come to my woodsand do what I do(in sheer numbers) in the first season?
Nope.
The next? ABSOLUTELY. TWO years in.....no telling what they could do.
Given the same learning curve as the original hunter is how I'm basing my point. Do I think someone could come to my woodsand do what I do(in sheer numbers) in the first season?
Nope.
The next? ABSOLUTELY. TWO years in.....no telling what they could do.
The premise of my question was.....(original)....if you HAD to shoot a P&Y deer .......where would you think your best chance of doing that was. I'd go to the placeI thought had the most of them.
So I guess you're saying.......(and I don't want to put words in your mouth, Greg)
To think otherwise......is kind of like saying....."I kill more/bigger deer.....not because they're more plentiful.....or because I have better odds.......no....it's because I'm a better hunter than you".
Isn't it???
Isn't it???
03-20-2008 | 07:30 AM
#22
Giant Nontypical
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From: Central Minnesota
RE: Even if you did......
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Look at it like this.....
If I asked you where your best chances of finding a woman in a bikini was.....the beach would probably rank right up there. Where would you go to find one?
Same thing with a P&Y deer. You go where they ARE. That's your best chance of getting one
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In regards to the hunting land.....remember that THAT person had a learning curve, too. Take that into consideration.......and its why I asked for a clarification several posts ago.
Look at it like this.....
If I asked you where your best chances of finding a woman in a bikini was.....the beach would probably rank right up there. Where would you go to find one?
Same thing with a P&Y deer. You go where they ARE. That's your best chance of getting one
.In regards to the hunting land.....remember that THAT person had a learning curve, too. Take that into consideration.......and its why I asked for a clarification several posts ago.
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03-20-2008 | 07:36 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Even if you did......
It is about location but the hunter has to make it all come together.On my land I have good success but a couple of the guy's I hunt with don't see 1/2 the deer that I see.1 of the guy's see more than I do. Yes land does help but the hunter has to make the right choices when they go out.
03-20-2008 | 07:39 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Even if you did......
I think alot of it has to do what state you hunt in. I live and most of my hunting is in PA not considered a big buck state like Il,WI,Ka.Io. ect. The antler restrictions are starting to work and Bigger bucks are starting to come out of PA.Most of the guys on this site are seasoned hunters who know scent controll,play the wind, stand placement, scout hard, read maps and know the whitetail habits ect! If you put them in a area that has more big bucks then their state I think giving time the would do just as well. I hunted Il 2 times and I seen more big bucks in the 12 days then the 36 years I been hunting in PA. I hunted with a outfitter in Il and the hunting was slow. I asked my guide if I could maybe do some scouting on my own. Much to my suprise he said yes. I scouted for a day and found a great looking spot and set up a stand. The next day I shot a nice 10pt . and my buddy hunted that spot on the last day of the hunt a missed a monster from there. I know luck played a big part but so did knowing what to look for. So I think most of the hunters on here could do well anywhere they hunt in due time.
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03-20-2008 | 07:43 AM
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RE: Even if you did......
No not the beach its pretty cold here, I am thinking the waterpark up in the Wisconsin Dells where I will be in April.
If I went down my you Jeff I would think my chance would be great at getting a deer as opposed to you coming up here.
You definatly have the numbers down by you.
Now as far as a P&Y buck its a crap shoot and probably would take ME a couple years.
Now shooting a 200 lb deer your chances are better up here.
I would like to see dukemichaels post on this because he is always hunting new ground year after year and
scores after what seems a couple of hunts.
Now when it came to a P&Y buck your chances and even my chance would be higher at GregH's spot then
either one of ours. (125") How much higher I am not sure.
I will have to check this when I get back Saturday I am heading out to the Galena Terroritories in IL shed hunting and visiting my inlaws.
You all behave in here or no cocktails when I get back.[8D]
If I went down my you Jeff I would think my chance would be great at getting a deer as opposed to you coming up here.
You definatly have the numbers down by you.
Now as far as a P&Y buck its a crap shoot and probably would take ME a couple years.
Now shooting a 200 lb deer your chances are better up here.
I would like to see dukemichaels post on this because he is always hunting new ground year after year and
scores after what seems a couple of hunts.
Now when it came to a P&Y buck your chances and even my chance would be higher at GregH's spot then
either one of ours. (125") How much higher I am not sure.
I will have to check this when I get back Saturday I am heading out to the Galena Terroritories in IL shed hunting and visiting my inlaws.
You all behave in here or no cocktails when I get back.[8D]
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Look at it like this.....
If I asked you where your best chances of finding a woman in a bikini was.....the beach would probably rank right up there. Where would you go to find one?
Same thing with a P&Y deer. You go where they ARE. That's your best chance of getting one.
In regards to the hunting land.....remember that THAT person had a learning curve, too. Take that into consideration.......and its why I asked for a clarification several posts ago.
Look at it like this.....
If I asked you where your best chances of finding a woman in a bikini was.....the beach would probably rank right up there. Where would you go to find one?
Same thing with a P&Y deer. You go where they ARE. That's your best chance of getting one
.In regards to the hunting land.....remember that THAT person had a learning curve, too. Take that into consideration.......and its why I asked for a clarification several posts ago.