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bowhunter1984 03-14-2008 01:30 PM

THINKING RAGE
 
ALLI HAVE SHOT ARE MUZZY 4 BLADES AND DONT GET ME WRONG THEY FLY GOOD AND HIT HARD NEVER HAD A DEER GO MORE THAN 60 YARDS AFTER I SHOT IT BUT FOR SOME STUPID REASON IM THINKING ABOUT TRYING THE RAGE 2 BLADES I KNOW IT IS STUPID BUT WHATS YOUR ALLS THOUGHTS

BowHuntingFool 03-14-2008 01:40 PM

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I'm thinking your not stupid for thinking of trying the Rage 2 blades!:D Can't hurt, except for the deer of course![8D]

ozbowhunter 03-14-2008 01:53 PM

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yep use what ya want but im still useing 125 grain thunderheads for the last ten yers or so and i see no reason to change

TEmbry 03-14-2008 01:54 PM

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Any sharp BH will kill properly placed, just shoot what suits you.....Which is Rage for me, atleast for now anyway.

kwilson16 03-14-2008 08:32 PM

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I switched to Rage 2 blade this year. They're fantastic. Spectacular blood trails. Complete pass throughs. Dead deer within sight from stand on four occasions.

jmbuckhunter 03-14-2008 08:44 PM

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If they went 60 yards with a Muzzy, they'll only go 20 with the Rage.;)

Seriously, I used them last year and they performed great on my 2 Whitetails. Massive blood trails.

TeeJay 03-14-2008 08:57 PM

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I switched to Rage just now also. I have had super success with Rocky Moutain Irion Heads, but I switched.

mobow 03-14-2008 09:10 PM

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I've seen first hand the destruction of a 2 blade rage. They're almost.......Gross. [:'(]

I picked up a pack of Hypershocks at the ATA this past January, I'm anxious to see how they perform as well.

salukipv1 03-14-2008 11:46 PM

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i also am a muzzy guy, 3blade 100gr though, and am quite certain im going to be shooting rage 2 blade this year. or at least give them a try.

MeanV2 03-15-2008 05:21 AM

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There are a lot of quality heads out there today. I am not fond of mechanicals because I prefer my Broadheads to cut on impact instead of open. Mechanicals also tend to be on the fragile side. I like Slick Tricks, G5, Muzzy, and NAP heads. The new 08 GrizzTrick should be one Tough Devastating head.

Dan

BowHuntingFool 03-15-2008 06:06 AM

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bowhunter1984, Sure some mechs are feeble but I wouldn't worry about the Rage 2 blade being on the fragile side! I killed a doe this year, busted ribs going in and out, stuck into a tree, no problems! Cleaned it up, sharpened it and back in the quiver it went! I was a bit worried as I never used a mech head before and was against it, until I actually used the head, I was VERY impressed as well as countless other hunters who use them! All you can do is give em' a try! Good luck!

jmbuckhunter 03-15-2008 06:17 AM

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ORIGINAL: MeanV2

There are a lot of quality heads out there today. I am not fond of mechanicals because I prefer my Broadheads to cut on impact instead of open. Mechanicals also tend to be on the fragile side.

Dan
Having shot Rocket Hammerheads for 5 years, I would agree that they were fragile. Pretty much one shot and pitch it.

But the Rage are a pretty tuff BH. I shot a doe and a buck with the same head last year. I resharpened it and it is #1 in my quiver, with a Turkeys name on it this spring.

Dan, I know your not against progress, because you shoot a Bowtech.:)I feel the Rage is the natural progression of broadheads. Different, but Better too.

jbowersox 03-15-2008 06:42 AM

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In the new issue of Bowhunting World, Chuck Adams has a great article on arrow penetration. In that article he gives very high marks to the Rage broadheads. He says that he harvested all his 2007 animals with the Rage's which is probably at least double digits. His endorsement is good enough for me.

Brknarrow1970 03-15-2008 06:55 AM

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Rage gets my vote - the entrance look similiar to someone throwing a hatchet- big entrance and big exit

wisbowhunter2009 03-15-2008 07:13 AM

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I shoot a Muzzy 3 blade and i love how they perform, BUT im going with Rage 2 blades this year, from everyones advice the blood trail is amazing.. Thats how i like it! So all you can do is try it and hope for the best.

MeanV2 03-15-2008 08:33 AM

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I've got the NAPGobbler Getters loaded for Turkeys because of obvious reasons. I've shot ST's on Deer sized and above game since 03. They fly Super, Tough as Steel (they are steel;)), and do Unbelievable Damage. I have not had to track a Deer since switching to them. If I saw any advantage to a Mechanical then I might be willing to take the risk again. I do Know that anything that has moving parts will and can foul up. Murphy stays way too close to me for me to take that chance, andfor What?? I'm not against change, but I want to feel like I'm improving something. Not risking something. They were a good seller last year, and from a dealer standpoint that's good.:D

Dan

GMMAT 03-15-2008 02:07 PM

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Based on your ideas on moving parts, Dan....you might as well be shooting traditional gear. Less moving parts ya know???? Or....has technology gotten past some of the ridiculous notions of years past?

I don't know what you have against these heads.....but you always seem to jump into these (RAGE) threads spewing negativity towards mechanicals.

Tell ya what.....I'll show you an undoctored photo of a RAGE shot doe. Then you show me one of yours.;)

Here's mine.......whatya got???



MeanV2 03-15-2008 02:47 PM

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Don't think I mentioned Rage in my previous post.:eek:Like I said if I saw any advantage to a mechanical I would use one since I deal with almost every Broadhead made. I think the advantages of a compound is pretty obvious to me.[8D]

Impressive post Jeff! Maybe I'll change my mind after I hunt for 3 years:eek:

Dan

stabnslab_WI 03-15-2008 02:54 PM

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Didn't have any luck with rage broadheads, in fact the only rage I had was my temper, hit bone both times. Bent the tip on both broadheads. But if I ever shot a deer a little far back I would want the rage on the end of my arrow. I have seen the damage it can do and its grusome. Its the best bad shot broadhead on the market if its not bone.

GMMAT 03-15-2008 02:59 PM

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Post up your photos, Dan. How many years experience does it take to see the absolute MASSIVE damage these heads inflict?

Nice attempt at a cut on me to bolster your argument.;)

Nothing you say changes the fact that these heads are real trauma inducers. Let's see photos of what the heads you endorse are doing.....to see how they compare.

MeanV2 03-15-2008 03:06 PM

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Jeff, I don't Endorse any Head, andI don't need to prove anything to you. I Bowhunt alone and will continue to use what head I prefer to pull out of Stock.;);)
I have not had to track a deer in 5 years. That's all the proof I need.

My reasons for using a certain type of heads is based on 40 years hunting experience. I don't really care if that impresses you or not. I wasn't trying to, but it does tell me what has worked for me. I would bet a weeks wages I've killed deer with more different Broadheads than you have ever even had screwed on your arrow[8D]

Dan


MeanV2 03-15-2008 03:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: stabnslab_WI

Didn't have any luck with rage broadheads, in fact the only rage I had was my temper, hit bone both times. Bent the tip on both broadheads. But if I ever shot a deer a little far back I would want the rage on the end of my arrow. I have seen the damage it can do and its grusome. Its the best bad shot broadhead on the market if its not bone.
Hummm??

Dan

Shimmeringleaves 03-15-2008 03:08 PM

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Can someone clear the air on the setscrew on the rage broadhead? I've heard the threads can bedamaged whenshooting the broadhead and sometimes the blades do not lock properly into the ferrule when put back into a quiver. Are these commentstrue?Ihave been thinking of trying out the 2-blade model this year but am hearingmixed feelings towards these two areas on this broadhead. Thanks again for any information.

GMMAT 03-15-2008 03:14 PM

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Then why do you feel the need to come into EVERY Rage thread denouncing mechanicals. Doesn't sound like someone so confident. Sounds like someone who wants to say "My way's better than yours".

I look forward to meeting you in '09. You don't know how much.;)

Rory/MO 03-15-2008 03:16 PM

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i love my rages, they dont lie, they fly just like a field tip!

MeanV2 03-15-2008 03:18 PM

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People need to know both sides of the Story. Is that wrong?[&:]

O if your wondering Bowtech does not have a deal with the Broadheads I use either

Thought that might save you starting another thread;)

Dan

Schultzy 03-15-2008 03:25 PM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Based on your ideas on moving parts, Dan....you might as well be shooting traditional gear. Less moving parts ya know???? Or....has technology gotten past some of the ridiculous notions of years past?

I don't know what you have against these heads.....but you always seem to jump into these (RAGE) threads spewing negativity towards mechanicals.

Tell ya what.....I'll show you an undoctored photo of a RAGE shot doe. Then you show me one of yours.;)

Here's mine.......whatya got???



I'm guessing that slice is 8 to 9 inches at least. How can that be possible with a 2" cutting diameter?

GMMAT 03-15-2008 03:29 PM

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The first one I shot with this head, Schultzy.....I shot with a pretty hard quartering away angle. I posted photos of that deer, too.....that made it into several internet boards. When I walked up on her....I remember saying OMG. Her entrails were intact....but protruding and hanging down about 1' out of her body. That entrance would was 6", anyways.

I have no reason to doctor a photo. What you see is what I saw.

Rory/MO 03-15-2008 03:31 PM

RE: THINKING RAGE
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Based on your ideas on moving parts, Dan....you might as well be shooting traditional gear. Less moving parts ya know???? Or....has technology gotten past some of the ridiculous notions of years past?

I don't know what you have against these heads.....but you always seem to jump into these (RAGE) threads spewing negativity towards mechanicals.

Tell ya what.....I'll show you an undoctored photo of a RAGE shot doe. Then you show me one of yours.;)

Here's mine.......whatya got???



god i know rages leave some huge holes when you stick one, but are you sure you didnt open this one up a little more when dragging the deer;)

GMMAT 03-15-2008 03:45 PM

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I took this photo after I got her home. I drove pretty much up to her....loaded her up...and drove her home on the ATV.

It is what it is.



Rory/MO 03-15-2008 03:50 PM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT

I took this photo after I got her home. I drove pretty much up to her....loaded her up...and drove her home on the ATV.

It is what it is.


did you get a complete pass through on the deer?

Shimmeringleaves 03-15-2008 03:53 PM

RE: THINKING RAGE
 
Can someone clear the air on the setscrew on the rage broadhead? I've heard the threads can bedamaged whenshooting the broadhead and sometimes the blades do not lock properly into the ferrule when put back into a quiver. Are these commentstrue?Ihave been thinking of trying out the 2-blade model this year but am hearingmixed feelings towards these two areas on this broadhead. Thanks again for any information. [align=right]
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buckmaster 03-15-2008 03:54 PM

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GMMAT 03-15-2008 03:55 PM

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She was hit high on the first shot and knocked down. This was the result of the follow up shot.

Schultzy 03-15-2008 03:55 PM

RE: THINKING RAGE
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

The first one I shot with this head, Schultzy.....I shot with a pretty hard quartering away angle. I posted photos of that deer, too.....that made it into several internet boards. When I walked up on her....I remember saying OMG. Her entrails were intact....but protruding and hanging down about 1' out of her body. That entrance would was 6", anyways.

I have no reason to doctor a photo. What you see is what I saw.
Jeff, I know you wouldn't doctor a photo, thats never ever crossed my mind! You know me better then to think that I hope!! I just can't see how its possible to rip a hole open that big with only 2" of cutting diameter. I know the sharp angle will help open it up some being your cutting more of the deer then actually penetrating it or going straight in like a broadside shot would do but to be that long and wide open it seems almost impossible. I'm not doughting what your saying one bit I just wonder what may of happened after you shot her or if the little drag out you did could of possibly caught on something. That has happened to me dragging bear out. Either way they do leave a nice hole.

Schultzy 03-15-2008 03:56 PM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT

She was hit high on the first shot and knocked down. This was the result of the follow up shot.
Your saying that you used 2 arrows?

buckmaster 03-15-2008 04:00 PM

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Rory/MO 03-15-2008 04:02 PM

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ORIGINAL: Schultzy


ORIGINAL: GMMAT

She was hit high on the first shot and knocked down. This was the result of the follow up shot.
Your saying that you used 2 arrows?
oh well then that would explain it for me

GMMAT 03-15-2008 04:04 PM

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Not in that spot I'm not (she wasn't hit with two arrows in that spot).

I could post up the one with the entrails hanging out and the 6" gash in her....(entrance hole....pass thru).....but I don't feel the need.

I often say OMG when I see what these heads can do.

You guys use what you want. I've only butchered 30 or so deer (16 killed by bow and arrow)......and I've never seen a deer shot with a BH that even SNIFFS what these heads are capable of.

I don't see how experience with mechanicals has any place in this issue. THIS head has only been out for a short time. It would be like trying to compare the bows of yesteryear with today's bows. No comparison.;)

buckmaster 03-15-2008 04:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: xXxrory7xXx


ORIGINAL: Schultzy


ORIGINAL: GMMAT

She was hit high on the first shot and knocked down. This was the result of the follow up shot.
Your saying that you used 2 arrows?
oh well then that would explain it for me
And not one ofthe 5 pics I posted did?


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