THINKING RAGE
03-17-2008 | 06:51 PM
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RE: THINKING RAGE
ORIGINAL: ducsauce
Heres a video of the 2 blade rage opening on impact. (Its the one on the left) http://www.ragebroadheads.com/rageVideo.html
Heres my question. Why would someone want to use the 3 blade when they can buy a 2 blade that has a bigger cutting diameter? Mobow, what made you decide?
Heres a video of the 2 blade rage opening on impact. (Its the one on the left) http://www.ragebroadheads.com/rageVideo.html
Heres my question. Why would someone want to use the 3 blade when they can buy a 2 blade that has a bigger cutting diameter? Mobow, what made you decide?
Ok, let's say, for easy math sake, a deer is 10" wide. A 2 blade head, 2" cutting diameter.......each blade is 1" long, for a cutting surface of 20".
Now take a 3 blade. Only 1 1/2" diameter, but each blade is then .75" long......75 x 3 = 2.25 2.25 x 10 = 22.5. And, you have the added advantage of another blade slicing through there, possibly hitting an artery you may have missed otherwise.
Man, my head hurts....
Now, while all I just mentioned is true...You wanna know why I shot 3 blade and not 2? We were out of the 2 blades.....
03-17-2008 | 06:59 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: THINKING RAGE
OK I got a question?? When the blades do fully deploy,what stops the blades from closing back up if say they hit a rib?
I am sure they are more difficult to close back up then just simply pushing on the blade right??? I dont know, just wondering?
I am sure they are more difficult to close back up then just simply pushing on the blade right??? I dont know, just wondering?
03-17-2008 | 07:01 PM
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RE: THINKING RAGE
For the blades to close, they would need to be pushed forward, toward the tip, and in. Shoot, I can hardly close them when I'm trying to. There's just no way they can possibly close up when zipping through a deer. Just can't. They're constantly being pushed rearward.
03-17-2008 | 07:04 PM
#214
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RE: THINKING RAGE
I know the Snypers I used were set-up so the blades could "pivot" around to help avoid full contact on a rib shot.
As far as the thread goes, there are good and bad for both fixed and mechanicals. Yes, a G5 Montec will be less prone to malfunction, but the rate of mechanical malfuction is very slim. Some guys would just rather not risk it, others think the large cutting diameter of the mech. out weighs the slightly higher risk of malfunction. In the end, its personal friggin choice and the big key is putting the broadhead where it needs to be.
I suggest everybody take a day off and go walk in the woods, this place has been too damn touchy lately. I never know what I am getting when I log in.... am I logging in to HNI or "the other site"?
As far as the thread goes, there are good and bad for both fixed and mechanicals. Yes, a G5 Montec will be less prone to malfunction, but the rate of mechanical malfuction is very slim. Some guys would just rather not risk it, others think the large cutting diameter of the mech. out weighs the slightly higher risk of malfunction. In the end, its personal friggin choice and the big key is putting the broadhead where it needs to be.
I suggest everybody take a day off and go walk in the woods, this place has been too damn touchy lately. I never know what I am getting when I log in.... am I logging in to HNI or "the other site"?
03-17-2008 | 07:12 PM
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RE: THINKING RAGE
ORIGINAL: mobow
The 2 blade may have a bigger cutting diameter, but the 3 blade has more cutting SURFACE.
Ok, let's say, for easy math sake, a deer is 10" wide. A 2 blade head, 2" cutting diameter.......each blade is 1" long, for a cutting surface of 20".
Now take a 3 blade. Only 1 1/2" diameter, but each blade is then .75" long......75 x 3 = 2.25 2.25 x 10 = 22.5. And, you have the added advantage of another blade slicing through there, possibly hitting an artery you may have missed otherwise.
Man, my head hurts.... Now, while all I just mentioned is true...You wanna know why I shot 3 blade and not 2? We were out of the 2 blades.....
ORIGINAL: ducsauce
Heres a video of the 2 blade rage opening on impact. (Its the one on the left) http://www.ragebroadheads.com/rageVideo.html
Heres my question. Why would someone want to use the 3 blade when they can buy a 2 blade that has a bigger cutting diameter? Mobow, what made you decide?
Heres a video of the 2 blade rage opening on impact. (Its the one on the left) http://www.ragebroadheads.com/rageVideo.html
Heres my question. Why would someone want to use the 3 blade when they can buy a 2 blade that has a bigger cutting diameter? Mobow, what made you decide?
Ok, let's say, for easy math sake, a deer is 10" wide. A 2 blade head, 2" cutting diameter.......each blade is 1" long, for a cutting surface of 20".
Now take a 3 blade. Only 1 1/2" diameter, but each blade is then .75" long......75 x 3 = 2.25 2.25 x 10 = 22.5. And, you have the added advantage of another blade slicing through there, possibly hitting an artery you may have missed otherwise.
Man, my head hurts....
Now, while all I just mentioned is true...You wanna know why I shot 3 blade and not 2? We were out of the 2 blades.....
What if I was aiming at a turkeys head? Wouldn't I rather have the larger diameter blade just in case I was off a bit with my aim?
03-17-2008 | 07:14 PM
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RE: THINKING RAGE
Well duc, that would be a logical conclusion. BUT, for a mechanical to work..You gotta hit 'em w/ the ferrule part of the head anyway. If you're gonna head shoot turkeys, look at the guillotine or the new one from Magnus.
I am, however, a big fan of cutting as big a hole in dem birds as you can.
I am, however, a big fan of cutting as big a hole in dem birds as you can.
03-17-2008 | 07:14 PM
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Boone & Crockett
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RE: THINKING RAGE
ORIGINAL: Buck Magnet
I know the Snypers I used were set-up so the blades could "pivot" around to help avoid full contact on a rib shot.
As far as the thread goes, there are good and bad for both fixed and mechanicals. Yes, a G5 Montec will be less prone to malfunction, but the rate of mechanical malfuction is very slim. Some guys would just rather not risk it, others think the large cutting diameter of the mech. out weighs the slightly higher risk of malfunction. In the end, its personal friggin choice and the big key is putting the broadhead where it needs to be.
I suggest everybody take a day off and go walk in the woods, this place has been too damn touchy lately. I never know what I am getting when I log in.... am I logging in to HNI or "the other site"?
I know the Snypers I used were set-up so the blades could "pivot" around to help avoid full contact on a rib shot.
As far as the thread goes, there are good and bad for both fixed and mechanicals. Yes, a G5 Montec will be less prone to malfunction, but the rate of mechanical malfuction is very slim. Some guys would just rather not risk it, others think the large cutting diameter of the mech. out weighs the slightly higher risk of malfunction. In the end, its personal friggin choice and the big key is putting the broadhead where it needs to be.
I suggest everybody take a day off and go walk in the woods, this place has been too damn touchy lately. I never know what I am getting when I log in.... am I logging in to HNI or "the other site"?
03-17-2008 | 07:37 PM
#218
Dominant Buck
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RE: THINKING RAGE
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
What's your goal when you shoot at a deer, Greg? Double-lung?
If so.....don't critique this one
When his leg is back in it's regular position (when he was standing).....that green dot you put in there is ON HIS SHOULDER.
This is abosolutely ludicrous.
What's your goal when you shoot at a deer, Greg? Double-lung?
If so.....don't critique this one
When his leg is back in it's regular position (when he was standing).....that green dot you put in there is ON HIS SHOULDER.
This is abosolutely ludicrous.
03-17-2008 | 07:50 PM
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RE: THINKING RAGE
ORIGINAL: mobow
BUT, for a mechanical to work..You gotta hit 'em w/ the ferrule part of the head anyway. If you're gonna head shoot turkeys, look at the guillotine or the new one from Magnus.
I am, however, a big fan of cutting as big a hole in dem birds as you can.
BUT, for a mechanical to work..You gotta hit 'em w/ the ferrule part of the head anyway. If you're gonna head shoot turkeys, look at the guillotine or the new one from Magnus.
I am, however, a big fan of cutting as big a hole in dem birds as you can.
I had the gulliotine in my head when I asked that question. Silly me. Thanks Mo
03-17-2008 | 08:05 PM
#220
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RE: THINKING RAGE
ORIGINAL: davidmil
Too far back. And if his leg was back you wait one more step. Well really, you already missed the best step. LOL So it's what, your first or second year of bowhunting when this buck was killed and you alone have all the answers. You live in a target rich environment. You buggered up several deer last year, and you're already to tell Greg how to kill a deer? Come on. Give it a rest GMMAT. As someone on this site told me once, "You aren't as smart as you think you are". LOL This new found love broadhead of yours may indeed be fine. The whole in the one picture is obviously a glancing blow. It really doesn't count.Your shot on the buck is far enough back and low enough to almost be a bad shot by the time it got to the other side.
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
What's your goal when you shoot at a deer, Greg? Double-lung?
If so.....don't critique this one
When his leg is back in it's regular position (when he was standing).....that green dot you put in there is ON HIS SHOULDER.
This is abosolutely ludicrous.
What's your goal when you shoot at a deer, Greg? Double-lung?
If so.....don't critique this one
When his leg is back in it's regular position (when he was standing).....that green dot you put in there is ON HIS SHOULDER.
This is abosolutely ludicrous.
Sorry, I meant you should have read this thread first, you a thread behind...LOL http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2707422