Trophy Hunting "Do you do it"
 

Do you consider yourself a trophy hunter? And what do you consider as trophy hunting?

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LMAO...brilliant!

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I consider myself a trophy hunter. The reason I say that is because I will not shoot a small buck, but instead wait for a mature buck or take no buck at all. With that being said, I will and do shoot as many does as I cantake. I do that because I like having some deer in the freezer and a doe does a great job filling that freezer space.

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No, because its unethical and not true hunting. You kill only what you eat. Not for a head. Senseless killing gets right on my nerves.

However my first kill I would also take the head aswell as with themeatto symbolise my "first one"

There are many so called American "trophy hunters" that come to Scotland purely to get a big red stag and leave the meat. People like that should not come here if they're going to act like idiots and disgrace our hunting heritage.

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NOPE........to me any kill is a trophy in my book.

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Can I ask what you find so amusing about my post?

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All of it.

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Why? Do you not agree? I am just curious to find out why it is that funny when I do not find anything amusing from it. Because I am deadly serious

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I eat every deer I shoot. If it's a trophy buck or a doe. Your assumption that trophy hunters waste the meat is ignorant!
Shame on you for calling trophy hunters unethical.

If I ever come to Scotland to hunt I will plan to stay there until I comsume the entire stag. Maybe you can supply me with a place to stay while I accomplish this goal.

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I find this very odd.. since in almost every area of the U.S. and Canada its illegal to waste the meat. You have to take nearly all of it after you kill it.

Are you sure its the americans and not just the Irish.:)[8D]

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I concur ...



Tell me, if anyone knows...

how difficult is it to get the meat into the U.S. if it is killed out of the country.. I have always wondered that..

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How is killing a "trophy" unethical? Define "true hunting". Trophy hunting is not senseless killing. It is not ONLY for a head mount. The meat isconsumed also.

I don't know for sure, but I suspect the meat is left for logistical reasons. And I also suspect that it is left for locals to consume, rather than simply wasted. If your game laws allow for NR hunters to kill an animal and waste the meat then that is a problem with the law, notjust withthe hunters. Labeling a group of people as idiots because you disagree with them seems pretty idiotic.

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The majority of people who come here are ignorant and only want trophies. I have nothing to be shameful about.

Most places you go to actually prepare the meat for you but they never seem to want it and most stay for about 4 weeks.

To kill atrophy buck is fine but I hate to see the meat go to waste when there is fine meat there.

When I go to MS for 2 weeks I will eat what meat i can but when I have to return home I will give it to my extended family over there as good will.

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Nope. Have not killed a trophy yet....

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Yes, I pass up several legal bucks each year with the hope of taking a nice buck.... I eat every deer I shoot. If I don't get the opportunity of a nice buck I get no buck.

I hunt a few states and, if I don't get my nice buck I will take a doe in the late season.

Been doing that for twenty years and hope to do it for another 20.....

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Im not "idiotic" I have pleanty of education under me,im just telling how it is from experiance and things i've heard from game keepers who i keep friendly with. I understand that you cannot take meat home with you but leaving it with the locals is better than throwing it to the dogs. Like I said earlier i dont like waste.

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I consider myself a trophy hunter. I choose to hunt with a bowonly to make it more rewarding. I try to take whatare considered in the upper class as for as antlers. I will shoot a doe or two for meat. I will not shoot a small buck for meat leave him alone an let him grow.

With that said I consider a doe as a respectable trophy also just in another class.

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Like I said...if your game laws allow the meat to be wasted, that's a problem with your country's game laws, not with trophy hunters.

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On a hunt, in camp it was funny, the guide said something I'm a meat hunter, I'm not a trophy hunter etc....and one of the hunters laughed and said, geez, I don't hunt for meat, I go to the grocer. I thought it was funny, to me there are 2 types of hunters, trophy, and meat, and the two do overlap somewhat at times.

If you simply out hunting to eat venision etc.....personally I feel its easy to just kill any deer, than it is to pick out a trophy buck to harvest. So to claim one is better than the other, and its usually the meat hunters claiming trophy hunters are real hunters to me is kinda ironic, since I believe trophy hunters probably spend more time in the woods hunting a particular deer, vs meat hunters who are just looking to harvest any deer. I think most trophy hunters, do eat their kill, and like an earlier post said, I also will pass up a small buck, i'm not going to mount it, I want to shoot a big buck, otherwise I just take a doe. I also won't eat 4 deer a year, so 1 or 2 is plenty for me.

Just thought I'd make that point that meat hunters take the higher road often in an argument and I feel its kinda held up on weak legs. I don't think one or the other is more morally correct than another. Maybe hunting for food alone is at the heart/basis for hunting. But if both guys eat their kill, there's no debating theyre both meat hunters, personally I just think trophy hunters work harder to get that trophy, they want both, a trophy for the wall, and some venison. I'm willing to bet everyone out there saw more does and small bucks than trophy bucks last year. I haven't been able to harvest a mature buck every year I've hunted, but I have been able to harvest a doe or small buck. Not saying one's easier to actually shoot, but certainly more opportunity than just waiting on a mature buck.

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And im sure theres also pleanty who waste meat on American soil too. And that is indeed their problem and they should be ashamed. I dont know many like that but the majority of Americans that I know all keep the meat frozen until consumption.

It is the same with me, when I go to MS I cannot take meat home with me. Its not game laws as such its DEfRA who make these rules to stop disease being passed from one country to the next.

Sarah.

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I guess you could say I am a trophy hunter. I want to shoot a red fox and have it mounted. I would also like to get a skunk. Of course, I will be wasting the meat since I do not eat fox or skunk.

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I hunt for amature buck. My personal standard is a 4 year old or older or 130" rack. I do this for a personal challenge. These goals are set by what I have a realistic chance to accomplish in the area I hunt. I also believe that each hunter should set their own goals and that all other hunters should respect them. I am also a meat hunter. I wait until muzzleloader or late bow season to fill my doe tags. This part of my hunt is becoming my favorite time in the woods.

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I used to live in Idaho where many out of staters come to hunt. One year an out of stater shot an elk and left it where it fell. The fish and game tracked this guy down all the way to California as if he commited murder. The fines were unreal and he lost his right to hunt.

As far as trophy hunting goes, a trophy is in the eyes of the beholder. I hunt for the meat and the sport,
andwill not shoot a small buck or a fawn. If a shooter buck comes my way that is a bonus.

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Sounds to me like somebody hangs around with a lot of people who waste meat. I bet that there are a lot more groceries wasted in a years time than meat that is taken from the field by hunters.

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Yes, I'm not out to get just any buck. It will be a trophy in some way to me.Maybe because of the Horns or the Hunt or the PeopleI am surrounded by.


As for Rem Girl and her anti American spewing that comes out in nearly every post. I've been to Scotland overall a very nice and accepting people. They are very Jealous of the US though. (for good reason too I might admit!)

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Yes I am a trophy hunter....and meat hunter (Only does for meat)in the late season!

I dont want to harvest any buck that grosses under 140".

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What are they ignorant about? How much meat would be an acceptable amount to eat in 4 weeks? A pound a day would still only be 28 lbs. are you saying that after they kill the animal and prepare to return home that if they can't ship it they "waste" it? How do they do that? Do they throw it on the ground, leave it at the airport, hide it in their room when they leave? It seems that the place they are hunting should have some knowledge of local places the meat could be used or donated as most of the hunters probably don't have extended family to leave it with over there,kind of likethe Hunters for the Hungry organization in the states.

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I personally don't consider myself a trophy hunter, but by passing on small bucks, most would label me that.

And regarding the scotland red stag stuff, Some places it is VERY difficult to bring foreign meat into the states. AND I;m sure the stag is still eaten by someone. Look at african hunting, they feel all the local villagers with the stuff they shoot. I wonder if I am a scumbag when I shoot a doe and donate it to the food bank for homeless people:eek:

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My brother has been stationed in Germay for 10 years, his wife is German/Russian and whenever she visits she talks about how America this and America that, and you think you are the greatest country in the world. I mean she is a full on Hater. I just tell her thank you for the Stoli's and Bratswurst, bothare pretty good, other thanthose two thingsI wouldn't really care much about Russia or Germany.;)(sarcasm)

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I wouldn't go that far to say everyone is jealous of America. There a good things about here too that I would miss if I moved to the USA. I am happy here other than climate issue of our mild summers and wet winters, nothing else. Im proud of my heritage and I think Scotland has done really well for itself considering we're a small country.

And Im not Anti-American, if that were so I wouldn't have been dating one for nearly 3 years and go over there on holiday alot.


Funny how every American I speak to in work (Airport)wants to move to Scotland and prefers it here. Everyone has their own views i suppose.

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I am both. When the states started allowing extra anterless tags back in 1991, I also became a trophy hunter. I stock up on meat from does as well as from the bucks I shoot. I've lived on venison for over 15 years. As far as trophies go, I shoot whatever I feel is a trophy in my mind. After all, who is the one that has to live with that decision?

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As long as it's legal every animal should be treated as a trophy.I too wait for a mature buck but shoot does.As hunters we need to quit worrying about what our fellow hunter does as long as legal and ethical

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I guess I just consider myself a hunter. Not a meat hunter, not a trophy hunter. I just like to hunt. I suppose if you want to slap a label on it based on my preferences, I suppose I could be both. I haven't shot a trophy yet, and I've taken some small bucks in the past. I try to take at least one doe a year for venison, but no I don't LIVE on it. We're all hunters in my book...no one right way inmho.

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No, I'm not a trophy hunter. I readily admit I'm a wannabe!

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I concider myself a trophy hunter based on a few things I won't shoot a buck unless it's mature and has a rack that i would put on the wall. I honestly don't hunt for themeat because there are cheaper alternatives I do eat what i kill though.

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You're right. There are cheaper alternatives. For what wehave invested in hunting, we could probably stock up on prime rib, porterhouse and filet-mignon at a fraction of the cost, but nothing tastes as good as venison. Since I can't buy it, I hunt for the meat.
I'm not a trophy hunter, but if a trophy buck ever gives me a shot, I just might make the switch.:)

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I'm strictly a meat hunter, I don't take trophies other than the memories. I have no problem with trophy hunters, I just don't care to be one.

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I'll tell you what Badger Girl was laughing at .... she thought, as did I, that you were joking .... I chuckled myself ... then your response .... Are you serious??? If you are, what are you DOING on here?!?!?!? You are sadly misguided ...

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I hunt for three main reasons:

1. Fill the darned freezer with one of the healthiest forms of protein on the planet... ie deer, elk, bear, turkey, lopersinthe freezer. I refuse to buy processed meats. Nothing better than an elk burger or steak that you killed, butchered and prepaired yourself.. JMO of course.
2. Old Whitetail bucks challenge and fascinate me, if he's 4.5 and older hes a challenge in the pressured lands/public lands I hunt them in. His antler score usually refects his age in this country130 + up to a slammer say.. 150+. Genetics/feed isgood herebut not as strong as the midwest or Canada...but goodenough for me.
3. It's a year around fun and a constant education.

Me a trophy hunter, I dont think so.. Antler scoreis not my main priority. I do let young animals walk though.. I guess it depends on the "DEFINITION" of trophy hunter and I doubt the hunting community will ever agree on that definition.

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I always try to shoot what is going to be a trophy for me, so I guess you could say that I'm a trophy hunter. It really comes down to the definition of "Trophy." What is a trophy to one person isn't a trophy to another. Someone that hunts strictly managed land would look at the deer I shoot and wonder how I could be happy with it. On the other hand, someone who shoots the first buck they encounter would see me passing on deer as trophy hunting. It is really a subjective questions.

RemingtonGirl, you have made a habit of making generalizations about Americans and then wonder why people take offense and get defensive. America has a lot of great things about it, but it's far from perfect, as is Scotland. Love each for what it has and try to improve where there are deficiencies. If you just want to bash, shut up.