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RE: Trophy Hunting "Do you do it"
Trophy hunting/Meat hunting...I fail to see how the two have to be mutually exclusive of one another. I don't need a lot of meat in the freezer for myself and I enjoy the increased challenge of seeking pinnacle representatives of a species. I hunt for trophy animals but I also have a freezer full of meat (most seasons anyway...[&:]). I think trophy hunters have a bad rap for being out there just to harvest a head, which is just ignorant. (As Remington Girl proved). That's just not what trophy hunting is about. It's about taking the challenge up a notch and putting your skills to the test that much more. It's about having a real appreciation for the animals that you hunt and wanting to learn about them. It's about being happy and willing to go home empty handed when some pea sized brained turkey hands you your busted, tired ass every morning for a week. It's not about blood thirsty wanton waste and destruction of game.
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ORIGINAL: KodiakArcher Trophy hunting/Meat hunting...I fail to see how the two have to be mutually exclusive of one another. I don't need a lot of meat in the freezer for myself and I enjoy the increased challenge of seeking pinnacle representatives of a species. I hunt for trophy animals but I also have a freezer full of meat (most seasons anyway...[&:]). I think trophy hunters have a bad rap for being out there just to harvest a head, which is just ignorant. (As Remington Girl proved). That's just not what trophy hunting is about. It's about taking the challenge up a notch and putting your skills to the test that much more. It's about having a real appreciation for the animals that you hunt and wanting to learn about them. It's about being happy and willing to go home empty handed when some pea sized brained turkey hands you your busted, tired ass every morning for a week. It's not about blood thirsty wanton waste and destruction of game. |
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ORIGINAL: bawanajim ORIGINAL: GregH ORIGINAL: bawanajim I try to do whats best for all of the worlds people,I only try to shoot deer that are old ,maybe weak, andeven down trodden. Basically inferior specimens.Genetic mutants,cripples just about any handicap that I can use to my advantage to render them freezer fodder .;) Done dirt cheap........;) |
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ORIGINAL: magicman54494 ORIGINAL: bawanajim ORIGINAL: GregH ORIGINAL: bawanajim I try to do whats best for all of the worlds people,I only try to shoot deer that are old ,maybe weak, andeven down trodden. Basically inferior specimens.Genetic mutants,cripples just about any handicap that I can use to my advantage to render them freezer fodder .;) Done dirt cheap........;) |
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I just love a good cat fight!! Helps to pass the bordom of off season.
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RE: Trophy Hunting "Do you do it"
ORIGINAL: magicman54494 I just love a good cat fight!! Helps to pass the bordom of off season. ![]()
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Yup I am.Anything that'll get me a decent size pile of meat in the freezer is a trophy. Dressed weight potential is the deciding factor. What that weight is depends on where I'm hunting and what the bag limits are. It may be a macho doe or a nice basket rack. It may be semi macho bucks. We don't have real macho bucks around here. If the bag limit is generous it may be a combination of two. It isn't going to have a milk mustache or spots. LOL I've passed on a lot of bucks that would have been killed in one place and ate tags in another. It depends. If I'm in Ohio lots of bucks have walked. Ifthey werein upstate NY, well they would have died. And then,,,... over the past 37 years I've sometimes just shot one because I felt like it and wanted to hear twack.
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I seem to be hunting bigger bucks each season. For me, I have progressed to the point where a 7-8 pointer is my bechmark each year, with an 8-10 my overall goal. I know that is not much for some, but for me it is just where I am in my progression and learning. So I would NOT consider myself a trophy hunter, I am in what I believe to be the middle stages of my hunting journey.
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For the record,
I've just returned from England and Scotland. I was there deer hunting. Ok. I wasculling deer. I shot a chinese water deer (doe), two reeves muntjac (both bucks), two roe deer (both does), and five red deer. Each and every one was taken to a "game processor" which was licensed by the "crown" to sell game meat to the public. The "game stalker", I hunted with, was paid for the deer brought in. He, in turn, paid the "games keepers" on the estates where we hunted. None of the meat went to waste. It went from the field directly to the game processor.How does that make mean idiot? I agree with Kodiakarcher, davidmil, and many others. Trophy hunting and meat hunting can be one in the same. On the above mentioned hunt, I killedten "trophies"-none of which ever made it back into the United States (it is illegal to bring meat and/or raw animal by productsfrom another country into the US). I'd also mention not a single animals possess antlers of any great size (Muntjac had tiny antlers. They were a far cry from being monsters). The red deer were entirely calves-the first thingthe "games keepers"required usto shoot. I was not there for a big head. I guess I'mone of thoseidiot. I did wack away at four red fox (I missed a fifth after pulling off a brilliant 370 yard shot). The carasses were tossed into a ditch. The poultry/pheasant farmer was gracious. He asked us to return the following night. We couldn't. Instead we went to the pub. We were English, Scottish, and American drunken idiots! I did not see anyone wearing a kilt. Althought, I had thoughts of giving it a go myself. I kept thinking "what do these bloks do to keep the bugs from biting their nads?". They are a hardy bunch! In the end, I passed (nope, not man enough). Emily and Sarah.........nice cat fight. Emily won! That's all I have to say about that. |
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Your hunting travels are amazing. I can't even imagine how cool it would be to get to go to some of the places you do. Thanks for sharing
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ORIGINAL: iamyourhuckleberry For the record, I've just returned from England and Scotland. I was there deer hunting. Ok. I wasculling deer. I shot a chinese water deer (doe), two reeves muntjac (both bucks), two roe deer (both does), and five red deer. Each and every one was taken to a "game processor" which was licensed by the "crown" to sell game meat to the public. The "game stalker", I hunted with, was paid for the deer brought in. He, in turn, paid the "games keepers" on the estates where we hunted. None of the meat went to waste. It went from the field directly to the game processor.How does that make mean idiot? I agree with Kodiakarcher, davidmil, and many others. Trophy hunting and meat hunting can be one in the same. On the above mentioned hunt, I killedten "trophies"-none of which ever made it back into the United States (it is illegal to bring meat and/or raw animal by productsfrom another country into the US). I'd also mention not a single animals possess antlers of any great size (Muntjac had tiny antlers. They were a far cry from being monsters). The red deer were entirely calves-the first thingthe "games keepers"required usto shoot. I was not there for a big head. I guess I'mone of thoseidiot. I did wack away at four red fox (I missed a fifth after pulling off a brilliant 370 yard shot). The carasses were tossed into a ditch. The poultry/pheasant farmer was gracious. He asked us to return the following night. We couldn't. Instead we went to the pub. We were English, Scottish, and American drunken idiots! I did not see anyone wearing a kilt. Althought, I had thoughts of giving it a go myself. I kept thinking "what do these bloks do to keep the bugs from biting their nads?". They are a hardy bunch! In the end, I passed (nope, not man enough). Emily and Sarah.........nice cat fight. Emily won! That's all I have to say about that. There are pleanty of people here who trophy hunt and all over the world. feh. Lighten up people! We all know that you cannot eat a whole stag in 1 week of hunting, c'mon for Gods sake. There is no winner at all as it wasn't an argument in the first place. Check out the white stag thread and i'll show you a REAL argument. Nobody messes with a Scotswoman especially one that is 1st Dan in Kendo and has been practicing kickboxing for 5 years, my dad was semi pro. ![]() Weeeeeeeeeeeee!!!! |
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Did Remington girl PM anyone else asking if they worked for Bowtech looking for freebies, this girl is starting to maKe me go HMMMMMMMMMmmmmm?
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Did I mention backpeddling earlier? :eek:
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ORIGINAL: remington_girl ORIGINAL: iamyourhuckleberry For the record, I've just returned from England and Scotland. I was there deer hunting. Ok. I wasculling deer. I shot a chinese water deer (doe), two reeves muntjac (both bucks), two roe deer (both does), and five red deer. Each and every one was taken to a "game processor" which was licensed by the "crown" to sell game meat to the public. The "game stalker", I hunted with, was paid for the deer brought in. He, in turn, paid the "games keepers" on the estates where we hunted. None of the meat went to waste. It went from the field directly to the game processor.How does that make mean idiot? I agree with Kodiakarcher, davidmil, and many others. Trophy hunting and meat hunting can be one in the same. On the above mentioned hunt, I killedten "trophies"-none of which ever made it back into the United States (it is illegal to bring meat and/or raw animal by productsfrom another country into the US). I'd also mention not a single animals possess antlers of any great size (Muntjac had tiny antlers. They were a far cry from being monsters). The red deer were entirely calves-the first thingthe "games keepers"required usto shoot. I was not there for a big head. I guess I'mone of thoseidiot. I did wack away at four red fox (I missed a fifth after pulling off a brilliant 370 yard shot). The carasses were tossed into a ditch. The poultry/pheasant farmer was gracious. He asked us to return the following night. We couldn't. Instead we went to the pub. We were English, Scottish, and American drunken idiots! I did not see anyone wearing a kilt. Althought, I had thoughts of giving it a go myself. I kept thinking "what do these bloks do to keep the bugs from biting their nads?". They are a hardy bunch! In the end, I passed (nope, not man enough). Emily and Sarah.........nice cat fight. Emily won! That's all I have to say about that. There are pleanty of people here who trophy hunt and all over the world. feh. Lighten up people! We all know that you cannot eat a whole stag in 1 week of hunting, c'mon for Gods sake. There is no winner at all as it wasn't an argument in the first place. Check out the white stag thread and i'll show you a REAL argument. Nobody messes with a Scotswoman especially one that is 1st Dan in Kendo and has been practicing kickboxing for 5 years, my dad was semi pro. ![]() Weeeeeeeeeeeee!!!! As far as the argument in this thread, what would have been refreshing would have been if you replied early on"Youknow maybemy postscame off wrong, my fault". Insteadwe were witness to the 2008 Special Olympics Backpedaling Championships (for the record, you won.....by alongshot)followed by the old "Oh I was just winding you guys up explanation and you guys don't get the concept". Sure, whatever you say. Now we get the I don't do catfights or arguments, I'm a bad ass Scotswoman I fight with brass knuckles and barbwire and blah blah blah blah blah. ZZZZZZZZ...ZZZZZZZZ....ZZZZZZZZZ. Wake me up when you are not full of fertilizer. That you don't even recognize that..... #1-You were in an argument and #2-You got owned...... is classic. Pride sure can be a double edged sword. Anywho, not trying to be a jerk(not so sincere disclaimer) just calling it like I see it. With love from the USA.;) |
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There is no winner at all as it wasn't an argument in the first place. Check out the white stag thread and i'll show you a REAL argument. |
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Please just delete this, im not even going to make the effort anymore. You've made up your minds anyway.
My mother has food poisoning and im worried about her. If you guys dont like me then just tell me lets not beat around the bush because I feel I have done nothing wrong but tried to catch you guys out. OK some may have not understood me I agree that not everyone has a sense of humour. Im just going to leave this as it is, I am not aggressive but I dont like to be bashed either, especially when I didn't mean it. I have to go. |
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I cannot get this image out of my head....
Two midge land on a scottishlad's inner thigh. They're conversing, bump elbows, and patting each other on the back. One says to the other "we're gonna have a ball today!" The same two midge land on a lassie's inner thigh. One is cowering behing the other. "you do it", one says. The others replies, "no, you do it". The first counter replies, " No sir, that spider will eat me!" I think Sarah is inexperienced with the serious nature we Americans feelwhen the rest of the world calls us idiots. I think she is beginning to realize that. Now, let us all be kind to one another. Sarah, I think my example clearly shows that notall Americans are as you claim. Your generalizations should be avoided at all costs. Need I remind you that a whole bunch of us "idiots" came to your aide when Mr. Hitler had ideas of sacking your pretty countryside. A lot of Idiots never made it back to America. They made the ultimate sacrifice so your small country could take part in current"World Affairs". Out of respect for them, I ask that you give the rest of us the benifit of the doubt. We are not the monsters you jokingly make us out to be!Now, the french on the other hand....LOL |
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ORIGINAL: iamyourhuckleberry I cannot get this image out of my head.... Two midge land on a scottishlad's inner thigh. They're conversing, bump elbows, and patting each other on the back. One says to the other "we're gonna have a ball today!" The same two midge land on a lassie's inner thigh. One is cowering behing the other. "you do it", one says. The others replies, "no, you do it". The first counter replies, " No sir, that spider will eat me!" I think Sarah is inexperienced with the serious nature we Americans feelwhen the rest of the world calls us idiots. I think she is beginning to realize that. Now, let us all be kind to one another. Sarah, I think my example clearly shows that notall Americans are as you claim. Your generalizations should be avoided at all costs. Need I remind you that a whole bunch of us "idiots" came to your aide when Mr. Hitler had ideas of sacking your pretty countryside. A lot of Idiots never made it back to America. They made the ultimate sacrifice so your small country could take part in current"World Affairs". Out of respect for them, I ask that you give the rest of us the benifit of the doubt. We are not the monsters you jokingly make us out to be!Now, the french on the other hand....LOL Btw we did fight well for being a small country you know. The French, well I dunno. |
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ORIGINAL: NEW61375 ORIGINAL: remington_girl ORIGINAL: iamyourhuckleberry For the record, I've just returned from England and Scotland. I was there deer hunting. Ok. I wasculling deer. I shot a chinese water deer (doe), two reeves muntjac (both bucks), two roe deer (both does), and five red deer. Each and every one was taken to a "game processor" which was licensed by the "crown" to sell game meat to the public. The "game stalker", I hunted with, was paid for the deer brought in. He, in turn, paid the "games keepers" on the estates where we hunted. None of the meat went to waste. It went from the field directly to the game processor.How does that make mean idiot? I agree with Kodiakarcher, davidmil, and many others. Trophy hunting and meat hunting can be one in the same. On the above mentioned hunt, I killedten "trophies"-none of which ever made it back into the United States (it is illegal to bring meat and/or raw animal by productsfrom another country into the US). I'd also mention not a single animals possess antlers of any great size (Muntjac had tiny antlers. They were a far cry from being monsters). The red deer were entirely calves-the first thingthe "games keepers"required usto shoot. I was not there for a big head. I guess I'mone of thoseidiot. I did wack away at four red fox (I missed a fifth after pulling off a brilliant 370 yard shot). The carasses were tossed into a ditch. The poultry/pheasant farmer was gracious. He asked us to return the following night. We couldn't. Instead we went to the pub. We were English, Scottish, and American drunken idiots! I did not see anyone wearing a kilt. Althought, I had thoughts of giving it a go myself. I kept thinking "what do these bloks do to keep the bugs from biting their nads?". They are a hardy bunch! In the end, I passed (nope, not man enough). Emily and Sarah.........nice cat fight. Emily won! That's all I have to say about that. There are pleanty of people here who trophy hunt and all over the world. feh. Lighten up people! We all know that you cannot eat a whole stag in 1 week of hunting, c'mon for Gods sake. There is no winner at all as it wasn't an argument in the first place. Check out the white stag thread and i'll show you a REAL argument. Nobody messes with a Scotswoman especially one that is 1st Dan in Kendo and has been practicing kickboxing for 5 years, my dad was semi pro. ![]() Weeeeeeeeeeeee!!!! As far as the argument in this thread, what would have been refreshing would have been if you replied early on"Youknow maybemy postscame off wrong, my fault". Insteadwe were witness to the 2008 Special Olympics Backpedaling Championships (for the record, you won.....by alongshot)followed by the old "Oh I was just winding you guys up explanation and you guys don't get the concept". Sure, whatever you say. Now we get the I don't do catfights or arguments, I'm a bad ass Scotswoman I fight with brass knuckles and barbwire and blah blah blah blah blah. ZZZZZZZZ...ZZZZZZZZ....ZZZZZZZZZ. Wake me up when you are not full of fertilizer. That you don't even recognize that..... #1-You were in an argument and #2-You got owned...... is classic. Pride sure can be a double edged sword. Anywho, not trying to be a jerk(not so sincere disclaimer) just calling it like I see it. With love from the USA.;) Thanks for the laughs!! Respect. BTW, I'm betting that she'll be back. |
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ORIGINAL: GregH Oops. That wasn't a bad shift at work, I think i'll treat myself to a nice scotch, what ya think? :D |
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ORIGINAL: remington_girl Please just delete this, im not even going to make the effort anymore. You've made up your minds anyway. My mother has food poisoning and im worried about her. If you guys dont like me then just tell me lets not beat around the bush because I feel I have done nothing wrong but tried to catch you guys out. OK some may have not understood me I agree that not everyone has a sense of humour. Im just going to leave this as it is, I am not aggressive but I dont like to be bashed either, especially when I didn't mean it. I have to go. I hope your mother is doing better. |
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ORIGINAL: DropTine249 I consider myself a hunter that is after trophies. I am not out in the woods to shoot any deer. I spot a deer in the early season, on a proeprty and I will stick to that property and hunt that deer. I do shoot doe, and alot of them, and I enjoy it. But, for racks, I am not out to shoot the first buck that crosses my path. I'd rather let the young bucks go and target 4.5yo deer. |
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ORIGINAL: NEW61375 ORIGINAL: remington_girl Please just delete this, im not even going to make the effort anymore. You've made up your minds anyway. My mother has food poisoning and im worried about her. If you guys dont like me then just tell me lets not beat around the bush because I feel I have done nothing wrong but tried to catch you guys out. OK some may have not understood me I agree that not everyone has a sense of humour. Im just going to leave this as it is, I am not aggressive but I dont like to be bashed either, especially when I didn't mean it. I have to go. I hope your mother is doing better. I wont take you seriously remember that [8D]:D |
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Sarah,
I think you and your Scots are special! For a small country, your valued input is always welcome. IMO, It is always good for us (Americans) to hear the voice and concerns of outsiders. How else can we police ourselvesinternationally? Despite what everyone thinks, we are all in this together. I know I will do my part...the image of hunters world wideis extremely import to me!On the other hand, I implore you to get to know us. Don't be so quick to judge...We do care...enough said. Myprayers go out to your mother. I hope she feels better in the morning. Hey ya'll, Let's give Oakcreek his thread back... |
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It is always good for us (Americans) to hear the voice and concerns of outsiders. I don't think there really is a Remington Girl. I think it's McAwful in drag, you know, wearing his skirt. Has anyone seen a picture or anything of this mystery woman that feels a need to point out all our faults(as she perceives them) but can't keep herself from coming to America on the internet for entertainment. If we're so confused and so terrible I think I'd go back and whack a sticky wicket or whatever they do and drink a pint. LOL Because really, if you've bonded with as many Americans as you say and have this unique ability to know what's real or not, you would have learned long ago... we really don't give a flip what the Brits, Scots, or whateverthink. We even fought a war to prove it. |
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ORIGINAL: davidmil It is always good for us (Americans) to hear the voice and concerns of outsiders. I don't think there really is a Remington Girl. I think it's McAwful in drag, you know, wearing his skirt. Has anyone seen a picture or anything of this mystery woman that feels a need to point out all our faults(as she perceives them) but can't keep herself from coming to America on the internet for entertainment. If we're so confused and so terrible I think I'd go back and whack a sticky wicket or whatever they do and drink a pint. LOL Because really, if you've bonded with as many Americans as you say and have this unique ability to know what's real or not, you would have learned long ago... we really don't give a flip what the Brits, Scots, or whateverthink. We even fought a war to prove it. I do exist and have posted pictures on this board already. ![]() As you can see I am indeed not a man. |
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Hey rg, do Scotland a big favor and quit posting!
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no i am not a trophy hunter. most of the time i shoot does for the meat
remington girl don't listen to some you can post here it makes it interesting |
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Sylvan,
Is that the message you really want to send? The girl made a mistake. She is growing.She is learning. Do you feel we have a responsibility to teach? Rather than send the student packing, wouldn't it be better to point out theirinadequacies and teach them to make better judgements? I am sure some kind soul did that for you..... Come on guys, cut the girl some slack! She made a mistake and is trying to make amends. She isindeed a person. |
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ORIGINAL: iamyourhuckleberry Sylvan, Is that the message you really want to send? The girl made a mistake. She is growing.She is learning. Do you feel we have a responsibility to teach? Rather than send the student packing, wouldn't it be better to point out theirinadequacies and teach them to make better judgements? I am sure some kind soul did that for you..... Come on guys, cut the girl some slack! She made a mistake and is trying to make amends. She isindeed a person. You're right, some people are too quick on the kill. They should be more like me and you!;) |
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Yea, you're probably right. I guess I just don't respond too kindly when I sense an anti american attitude.
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ORIGINAL: Sylvan Yea, you're probably right. I guess I just don't respond too kindly when I sense an anti american attitude. Grow up and quit being paranoid. Everybody makes mistakes but you obviously dont agree, heh if you think im being anti-American you should hear what the middle east says about your country and believe me you wont like it. Sarah |
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Sarah,
Darn it girl! Take thatcotton pick'nScottish pride and hide it in a basket! You didn't need to make any further comments-PERIOD! We are doing damage control here. You do not need to stir the pot... unless of course you're a glutton for punishment. If you want respect, then give it! |
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how could you guys start an argument over this
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ORIGINAL: iamyourhuckleberry Sarah, Darn it girl! Take thatcotton pick'nScottish pride and hide it in a basket! You didn't need to make any further comments-PERIOD! We are doing damage control here. You do not need to stir the pot... unless of course you're a glutton for punishment. If you want respect, then give it! Sowwie. |
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ORIGINAL: remington_girl ORIGINAL: iamyourhuckleberry Sarah, Darn it girl! Take thatcotton pick'nScottish pride and hide it in a basket! You didn't need to make any further comments-PERIOD! We are doing damage control here. You do not need to stir the pot... unless of course you're a glutton for punishment. If you want respect, then give it! Sowwie. |
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