is bowhuntin gettin to sophisticated?(sp)
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Nontypical Buck
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" Now I shoot a bow that is a cross between a recurve and a compound "
Do you men a cross bow ?
Bowhunter4life - Do you then approve of "gadgets" like a draw loc ? How about poison pods ? I aint trying to stir a fight, but aren't we going to eventually get too high tech ? I have asked this before, is there any difference in shooting a crossbow or using a drawloc and using a iron sighted handgun ? My point being that archery season is suppose to be challenging, and with todays high tech equipment, getting within 30-40 yards is the challenge, not the shooting of the bow itsself.
Am I way off here ?
Do you men a cross bow ?
Bowhunter4life - Do you then approve of "gadgets" like a draw loc ? How about poison pods ? I aint trying to stir a fight, but aren't we going to eventually get too high tech ? I have asked this before, is there any difference in shooting a crossbow or using a drawloc and using a iron sighted handgun ? My point being that archery season is suppose to be challenging, and with todays high tech equipment, getting within 30-40 yards is the challenge, not the shooting of the bow itsself.
Am I way off here ?
#13
I liked what the one above post stated....
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When people start infringing on other people's rights by stating "you can't shoot this" or "this is too high tech" then they are trying to run other people's lives.
We have rules in place right now that limit equipment....lets try to stay with those....and not get more stringent or more lenient. I am more than happy to be able to take out my FRS radio and my laser rangefinder...and my digital camera...and my camcorder....and my binoculars...etc...
I love my gadgets.....but I love just being out there more.
The Golden Rule....
"To Each his Own"
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Bowhunting is what you want to make of it. If you want to use all the gimmicks and gadgets then that is your personal brand of archery. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>
When people start infringing on other people's rights by stating "you can't shoot this" or "this is too high tech" then they are trying to run other people's lives.
We have rules in place right now that limit equipment....lets try to stay with those....and not get more stringent or more lenient. I am more than happy to be able to take out my FRS radio and my laser rangefinder...and my digital camera...and my camcorder....and my binoculars...etc...
I love my gadgets.....but I love just being out there more.
The Golden Rule....
"To Each his Own"
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Typical Buck
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well, I don't use a rangefinder, or trail timmer or any of that tech stuff.
but, I ain't gonna bash anybody that does. but, take for instance the trail timmer. it tells you the exact time a deer walks by a certain spot. what ever
happened to old fashion scouting? and the range finder? to me it takes the
challenge out of makin the shot the old fashion way, judgeing distance. anyways,
whatever floats your boat<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
Stealthy, I ain't quite ready to go traditional yet, but i sure do respect the
people that do! ya'll are a different breed<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
but, I ain't gonna bash anybody that does. but, take for instance the trail timmer. it tells you the exact time a deer walks by a certain spot. what ever
happened to old fashion scouting? and the range finder? to me it takes the
challenge out of makin the shot the old fashion way, judgeing distance. anyways,
whatever floats your boat<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
Stealthy, I ain't quite ready to go traditional yet, but i sure do respect the
people that do! ya'll are a different breed<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
#15
bogobble,
I used my laser rangefinder to range several of my shooting lanes right after it got light out one morning. A doe walked through the one lane right where I ranged the distance....
...and I missed....
....gadgets can help, but ultimately it is the archer that makes it happen.
I used my laser rangefinder to range several of my shooting lanes right after it got light out one morning. A doe walked through the one lane right where I ranged the distance....
...and I missed....
....gadgets can help, but ultimately it is the archer that makes it happen.
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Typical Buck
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Actually, the word sophisticated when used in this context means: (1) not in a natural, pure, or original state. (2) deprived of native or original simplicity: (a) highly complicated or developed : "COMPLEX" as in sophisticated electronic devices.
If we apply (1) then everything is sophisticated, but when we take (2) into consideration it makes a distinction between those things that still retain the simplistic designs and those things that dont.
If our ancestors were here, would they choose the more sophisticated over their crude weapons? I think they would. That is until they could no longer get them to work, then they'd go back to the equipment that works and has proven itself over thousands of years. They would also see that when a piece of equipment replaces the natural ability of the human, the human becomes weaker. Eventually losing that which was inherent or natural to them. Like aiming without sights.
If we apply (1) then everything is sophisticated, but when we take (2) into consideration it makes a distinction between those things that still retain the simplistic designs and those things that dont.
If our ancestors were here, would they choose the more sophisticated over their crude weapons? I think they would. That is until they could no longer get them to work, then they'd go back to the equipment that works and has proven itself over thousands of years. They would also see that when a piece of equipment replaces the natural ability of the human, the human becomes weaker. Eventually losing that which was inherent or natural to them. Like aiming without sights.
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Nontypical Buck
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From: egypt
your dang right it is..there is nothing you can make to replace woodsmenship! Some gadgets can help (ranger finders can help those who just cant figure out distance)...the rest are to make money off of (fall away rests, what in the world are you going to do when you come to ak with one of these things and it falls apart on ya....)!
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Wahya, in that respect, yes. It is. But I was referring to the sophisticated knowledge and skills that are eroding away because of all the gobbledygook that folks are carrying into the woods.
Take treestands for instance. Seems like most folks hunt from treestands these days and don't think there is any other way to do it. Still hunting and stalking are far more sophisticated methods of bowhunting than sitting on your butt, 20 feet up a tree for several hours. Not so? <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
Take treestands for instance. Seems like most folks hunt from treestands these days and don't think there is any other way to do it. Still hunting and stalking are far more sophisticated methods of bowhunting than sitting on your butt, 20 feet up a tree for several hours. Not so? <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
#20
In my own opinion, I feel that we as hunters we should take any technology given to us, to a certain extent. I don' think that we can kill a deer too humanely. We should attempt to make a fast and humane kill, and new technology seems to help out. We should keep it as traditional as possible, but things like climbing treestands, scent lok suits, expandable broadheads, fiber optic sights.... are good ideas that help hunters out.
Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
P.S. Only Chuck Adams can sit at home and see deer so get into the woods. =;^)
Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
P.S. Only Chuck Adams can sit at home and see deer so get into the woods. =;^)


