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Situation Ethics????........2 Part Question .....**UPDATED WITH twils real life situation
06-07-2008 | 09:02 AM
#321
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Ok Ethics Police ........2 Part Question .................................................
ORIGINAL: early in
Well, this is certainly a horse of a different color, unlike the antler scenerio! In THIS case, I do consider it trespassing/illegal/wrong, and wouldn't do any of the things described. I also wouldn't put myself in such close proximity to a property line, as to bring on such a situation! See Chris, I'm not such a bad guy, am I?
ORIGINAL: Lubricious
Yep, but not to some people. Hell, they will trespass to get a damn antler. Then these same people will make thread after thread about people coming onto their land without permission.
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
It's JUST a deer.
It's JUST a deer.
06-07-2008 | 09:35 AM
#322
Giant Nontypical
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From: Mont County, Pa
RE: Ok Ethics Police ........2 Part Question .................................................
Again, read the thread! It mentions A)shooting a deerthat's on someone else's property, THAT'S POACHING!! And B) going on to someone else's property to claim a deer that you shot, however legally. THAT'S TRESPASSING!!
06-07-2008 | 03:07 PM
#323
Typical Buck
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RE: Ok Ethics Police ........2 Part Question .................................................
As you guys see I too struggle with this, I know full well it's easy to type absolutes like "I will not" or "I'd never" but the truth is we don't TRULY know what we would do until it happens and as to date this hasn't happened to me
11-06-2008 | 05:46 PM
#324
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Giant Nontypical
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RE: Ok Ethics Police ........2 Part Question .................................................
Let's see what your response was on THIS thread now that we have a real life example with twil's thread ......
11-06-2008 | 06:06 PM
#325
Nontypical Buck
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From: Virginia / West Virginia
RE: Ok Ethics Police ........2 Part Question .................................................
1. I would Shoot 2. Get the deer
1. I wouldn't shoot 2. Get the deer
1. I wouldn't shoot 2. I'd leave the deer
Must be some divine powers at work there....
[8D]
11-06-2008 | 06:09 PM
#326
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Giant Nontypical
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From: Heaven is my home, temporarily residing in WNY :)
RE: Ok Ethics Police ........2 Part Question .................................................
ORIGINAL: WV Hunter
1. I would Shoot 2. Get the deer
1. I wouldn't shoot 2. Get the deer
1. I wouldn't shoot 2. I'd leave the deer
Hey PT.... how exactly do I accomplish that 2nd one?
Must be some divine powers at work there....[8D]
1. I would Shoot 2. Get the deer
1. I wouldn't shoot 2. Get the deer
1. I wouldn't shoot 2. I'd leave the deer
Must be some divine powers at work there....
[8D]
ORIGINAL: PreacherTony
[align=left]Scenario 1.[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]You found a great spot just 30 yards from someone else's property that you DON'T have permission to hunt ..... the biggest buck you have ever seen walks the fence line on HIS property ... he is walking slowly, stopping for 10 seconds at a time ... it is obvious he is just going to follow the fence line away from the property you hunt ..... do you shoot?[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]Scenario 2.[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]You are hunting from the same stand, the previous scenario has not happened, the same buck comes by on the property you are hunting, you drill him at 20 yards ... he runs, jumps the fence, then dies 10 yards on the other property ... again. you have been told that you will be prosecuted if the landowner ever found you on his property ...... do you get the buck? In the area you are hunting, the neighbor is great friends with the CO and there is not a law stating that he has to let you recover your deer.....[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]
[align=left]Scenario 1.[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]You found a great spot just 30 yards from someone else's property that you DON'T have permission to hunt ..... the biggest buck you have ever seen walks the fence line on HIS property ... he is walking slowly, stopping for 10 seconds at a time ... it is obvious he is just going to follow the fence line away from the property you hunt ..... do you shoot?[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]Scenario 2.[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]You are hunting from the same stand, the previous scenario has not happened, the same buck comes by on the property you are hunting, you drill him at 20 yards ... he runs, jumps the fence, then dies 10 yards on the other property ... again. you have been told that you will be prosecuted if the landowner ever found you on his property ...... do you get the buck? In the area you are hunting, the neighbor is great friends with the CO and there is not a law stating that he has to let you recover your deer.....[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]
11-06-2008 | 06:24 PM
#327
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RE: Ok Ethics Police ........2 Part Question .................................................
I have always contended that the rights of a landowner supercede the perceived "rights" of a hunter. One is real....and one is imagined.
On the other hand.....if the hunter is willing to pay the price for the law he is willingly breaking.....
I have no issues with it. What I take offense to....is the sense of "entitlement" some have in this arena. That's so far from reality it's pathetic. Make your choice....and live with it....but don't tell me you're going to get your deer because it's your "right".
On the other hand.....if the hunter is willing to pay the price for the law he is willingly breaking.....
I have no issues with it. What I take offense to....is the sense of "entitlement" some have in this arena. That's so far from reality it's pathetic. Make your choice....and live with it....but don't tell me you're going to get your deer because it's your "right".
11-06-2008 | 06:28 PM
#328
Giant Nontypical
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RE: Ok Ethics Police ........2 Part Question .................................................
I'd get the deer because it is RIGHT, not because of any percieved right.. And now I haven't read or followed the thread.
11-06-2008 | 06:29 PM
#329
Nontypical Buck
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From: Virginia / West Virginia
RE: Ok Ethics Police ........2 Part Question .................................................
PT --- Gotcha.... Thanks for straightening me out!
I figured you were talking about the new administrations way - they'lljust give it to me - after someone else does the dirty work![8D]
I figured you were talking about the new administrations way - they'lljust give it to me - after someone else does the dirty work!
[8D]
11-06-2008 | 07:32 PM
#330
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Ok Ethics Police ........2 Part Question .................................................
On our farm we have a very good relationship with our neighbors. We allow them to pursue deer on our land, and they return the favor with us. We have even had at times let some cross our fence to hang a stand as long as it was not interferring with someone on us. While I don't bowhunt on any neighbors, I do have a very good shotgun stand about 100 yards across the fence, which the landowner has approved.
So I would shoot the deer with no fear of going and getting it.
So I would shoot the deer with no fear of going and getting it.