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Situation Ethics????........2 Part Question .....**UPDATED WITH twils real life situation

Old 02-26-2008 | 02:35 PM
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You really make me laugh, Big.

Yeah, I've got family who served. I've got friends in all branches of the military serving in Iraq at the moment.

Most of them hunt. I'd be willing to bet every one of them would be just as quick to get their deer.

Call me a communist hell bent on tearing down America as we know it, but I'd get my deer.

I hope you never go a mile an hour over the speed limit. Those spped limits are the LIMIT. No higher, Big.

I hope you never jay walk. Those crosswalks are the ONLY place to cross, Big.

Give me a break. You're hilarious.
I'm glad you find this all too funny Washington Hunter....It just goes to show the state of mind of our youth today. This attitude of "To hell with my neighbor's rights, I'll do what I want!" or "Who cares what my neighbor wants, I'll do what I want!" will never be right no matter how you try to spin it. If he doesn't want you on his property, don't go on it, It's pretty simple.

Is that what you want to portray?? Is that how you want someone else to treat YOUR wishes? More importantly, do you think so little of another person or theircivil rightsor personaldesires that your willing tocast them aside and trespass simply because you need to "get your deer".

If someone doesn't want you on their property it shouldn't matter why. You (and everyone else) should RESPECT that wish.

What's wrong with people these days? Have we lost all sense of common decencyin our lust for personal gain?


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Old 02-26-2008 | 02:42 PM
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Do you own ground? A house? Is it ok if I walk in your house to get a drink of water? I promise to only do it when you aren't home and don't know about it.
Yeah,I guess all you guys who say it's ok to jump a fence will have no problem with a complete stranger strolling into you home and helping themselves to some water from your kitchen sink. After all....nobody's home and nobody will know they were there.

No harm no foul right?.......Please.
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Old 02-26-2008 | 02:42 PM
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You really make me laugh, Big.

Yeah, I've got family who served. I've got friends in all branches of the military serving in Iraq at the moment.

Most of them hunt. I'd be willing to bet every one of them would be just as quick to get their deer.

Call me a communist hell bent on tearing down America as we know it, but I'd get my deer.

I hope you never go a mile an hour over the speed limit. Those spped limits are the LIMIT. No higher, Big.

I hope you never jay walk. Those crosswalks are the ONLY place to cross, Big.

Give me a break. You're hilarious.
I'm glad you find this all too funny Washington Hunter....It just goes to show the state of mind of our youth today. This attitude of "To hell with my neighbor's rights, I'll do what I want!" or "Who cares what my neighbor wants, I'll do what I want!" will never be right no matter how you try to spin it. If he doesn't want you on his property, don't go on it, It's pretty simple.

Is that what you want to portray?? Is that how you want someone else to treat YOUR wishes? More importantly, do you think so little of another person or theircivil rightsor personaldesires that your willing tocast them aside and trespass simply because you need to "get your deer".

If someone doesn't want you on their property it shouldn't matter why. You (and everyone else) should RESPECT that wish.

What's wrong with people these days? Have we lost all sense of common decencyin our lust for personal gain?

Yep, I am a horrible person. I am the at the forfront of all that is wrong with today's youth. I have absolutely no work ethic, no respect for my elders, I stay inside and play video games all day long, I do nothing to support my family, I am not continuing my education, I do absolutely nothing of value in the eys of society. Yeah, I'm a horrible person. LMAO If anything, I've done more than just about anyone to prove that not all of today's youth fit that stereotype, but whatever. Nice to know you're so eager to hang a guy because he crosses a property boundary.

Yes, I do find it funny, Big. Hilarious, actually.

You're older and wiser so obviously I'm absolutely wrong in my opinion. I knew the "age" thing would come out, way to be awesome. Good on ya.

Fortunately, as I mentioned earlier, I live in a free chase state. I can, and will, go onto my neighbor's property regaredless of whether he gives me permission. It's perfectly legal here. If it weren't I'd still do it.

But honestly, I'm sick of arguing with you. Have an awesome day. I'm going to go be a horrible youth now.
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Old 02-26-2008 | 02:47 PM
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Do you own ground? A house? Is it ok if I walk in your house to get a drink of water? I promise to only do it when you aren't home and don't know about it.
Yeah,I guess all you guys who say it's ok to jump a fence will have no problem with a complete stranger strolling into you home and helping themselves to some water from your kitchen sink. After all....nobody's home and nobody will know they were there.

No harm no foul right?.......Please.
BTW that is breaking and entering If we are going to stick to definations then lets stick to them
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Old 02-26-2008 | 02:58 PM
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You really make me laugh, Big.

Yeah, I've got family who served. I've got friends in all branches of the military serving in Iraq at the moment.

Most of them hunt. I'd be willing to bet every one of them would be just as quick to get their deer.

Call me a communist hell bent on tearing down America as we know it, but I'd get my deer.

I hope you never go a mile an hour over the speed limit. Those spped limits are the LIMIT. No higher, Big.

I hope you never jay walk. Those crosswalks are the ONLY place to cross, Big.

Give me a break. You're hilarious.
I'm glad you find this all too funny Washington Hunter....It just goes to show the state of mind of our youth today. This attitude of "To hell with my neighbor's rights, I'll do what I want!" or "Who cares what my neighbor wants, I'll do what I want!" will never be right no matter how you try to spin it. If he doesn't want you on his property, don't go on it, It's pretty simple.

Is that what you want to portray?? Is that how you want someone else to treat YOUR wishes? More importantly, do you think so little of another person or theircivil rightsor personaldesires that your willing tocast them aside and trespass simply because you need to "get your deer".

If someone doesn't want you on their property it shouldn't matter why. You (and everyone else) should RESPECT that wish.

What's wrong with people these days? Have we lost all sense of common decencyin our lust for personal gain?

Yep, I am a horrible person. I am the at the forfront of all that is wrong with today's youth. I have absolutely no work ethic, no respect for my elders, I stay inside and play video games all day long, I do nothing to support my family, I am not continuing my education, I do absolutely nothing of value in the eys of society. Yeah, I'm a horrible person. LMAO If anything, I've done more than just about anyone to prove that not all of today's youth fit that stereotype, but whatever. Nice to know you're so eager to hang a guy because he crosses a property boundary.

Yes, I do find it funny, Big. Hilarious, actually.

You're older and wiser so obviously I'm absolutely wrong in my opinion. I knew the "age" thing would come out, way to be awesome. Good on ya.

Fortunately, as I mentioned earlier, I live in a free chase state. I can, and will, go onto my neighbor's property regaredless of whether he gives me permission. It's perfectly legal here. If it weren't I'd still do it.

But honestly, I'm sick of arguing with you. Have an awesome day. I'm going to go be a horrible youth now.
You can be snide and sarcastic all you want, it doesn't change the FACT that you said quite clearly that you'd break the law and in the process impede another's civil rights simply for YOUR personal gain.

I made no mention of your work ethic, your respect (or lack of) for your elders, nor did I mention your scholastics, home life or any otherpersonal attribute other than your selfish desire to put your hunting above another's personal rights. YOU brought it there in an attempt to mask and create a smoke screen from the truth. I suspect anyone with a grade school education can and will see though your masquerade.

You have said NOTHING that would even remotely lead me to change my mind about the the subject at hand, in fact you only bolstered it.
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Old 02-26-2008 | 03:04 PM
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You really make me laugh, Big.

Yeah, I've got family who served. I've got friends in all branches of the military serving in Iraq at the moment.

Most of them hunt. I'd be willing to bet every one of them would be just as quick to get their deer.

Call me a communist hell bent on tearing down America as we know it, but I'd get my deer.

I hope you never go a mile an hour over the speed limit. Those spped limits are the LIMIT. No higher, Big.

I hope you never jay walk. Those crosswalks are the ONLY place to cross, Big.

Give me a break. You're hilarious.
I'm glad you find this all too funny Washington Hunter....It just goes to show the state of mind of our youth today. This attitude of "To hell with my neighbor's rights, I'll do what I want!" or "Who cares what my neighbor wants, I'll do what I want!" will never be right no matter how you try to spin it. If he doesn't want you on his property, don't go on it, It's pretty simple.

Is that what you want to portray?? Is that how you want someone else to treat YOUR wishes? More importantly, do you think so little of another person or theircivil rightsor personaldesires that your willing tocast them aside and trespass simply because you need to "get your deer".

If someone doesn't want you on their property it shouldn't matter why. You (and everyone else) should RESPECT that wish.

What's wrong with people these days? Have we lost all sense of common decencyin our lust for personal gain?

Yep, I am a horrible person. I am the at the forfront of all that is wrong with today's youth. I have absolutely no work ethic, no respect for my elders, I stay inside and play video games all day long, I do nothing to support my family, I am not continuing my education, I do absolutely nothing of value in the eys of society. Yeah, I'm a horrible person. LMAO If anything, I've done more than just about anyone to prove that not all of today's youth fit that stereotype, but whatever. Nice to know you're so eager to hang a guy because he crosses a property boundary.

Yes, I do find it funny, Big. Hilarious, actually.

You're older and wiser so obviously I'm absolutely wrong in my opinion. I knew the "age" thing would come out, way to be awesome. Good on ya.

Fortunately, as I mentioned earlier, I live in a free chase state. I can, and will, go onto my neighbor's property regaredless of whether he gives me permission. It's perfectly legal here. If it weren't I'd still do it.

But honestly, I'm sick of arguing with you. Have an awesome day. I'm going to go be a horrible youth now.
You can be snide and sarcastic all you want, it doesn't change the FACT that you said quite clearly that you'd break the law and in the process impede another's civil rights simply for YOUR personal gain.

I made no mention of your work ethic, your respect (or lack of) for your elders, nor did I mention your scholastics, home life or any otherpersonal attribute other than your selfish desire to put your hunting above another's personal rights. YOU brought it there in an attempt to mask and create a smoke screen from the truth. I suspect anyone with a grade school education can and will see though your masquerade.

You have said NOTHING that would even remotely lead me to change my mind about the the subject at hand, in fact you only bolstered it.
I don't expect you to change your mind, Big. Which is why I haven't made an attempt to make an argument in favor of my opinion. All I've done is state my opinion and have that opinion torn to pieces by you.

Yes, I would break the law in order to retrieve my deer if it came down to it. I killed that animal. It deserves to be used not wasted. If my neighboring landowner wants to be a prick and not let me get it, I'll do it when he doesn't know about it.

I'll make my opinion clear;

I would break the law to get my deer.

If that makes me an unethical hunter in your eyes, so be it. Bummer deal. Do I really care? No.

That is my opinion and it isn't up for argument. You feel the way you do, I feel the way I do.

Leave it at that.
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Old 02-26-2008 | 03:06 PM
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Do you own ground? A house? Is it ok if I walk in your house to get a drink of water? I promise to only do it when you aren't home and don't know about it.
Yeah,I guess all you guys who say it's ok to jump a fence will have no problem with a complete stranger strolling into you home and helping themselves to some water from your kitchen sink. After all....nobody's home and nobody will know they were there.

No harm no foul right?.......Please.
BTW that is breaking and entering If we are going to stick to definations then lets stick to them
Call it breaking and entering or trespassing both imply basicallythe same thing. You are entering another's land or dwelling without permission. No one is home or know you were their in either instance. Soaccording to most here..both are just fine? In one instance a guy really needed to get his deer, in the the other a guy was really thirsty.

No harm no foul right?

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Old 02-26-2008 | 03:16 PM
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If a guy walked on my property and used my hose to get a drink I'd have no problem with it.

This is getting ridiculas,cya.
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Old 02-26-2008 | 03:21 PM
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If a guy walked on my property and used my hose to get a drink I'd have no problem with it.

This is getting ridiculas,cya.
Charlie while i am getting a drink, can I hose my deer off I drug of your land too?
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Old 02-26-2008 | 03:33 PM
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If a guy walked on my property and used my hose to get a drink I'd have no problem with it.

This is getting ridiculas,cya.
What if he walked in the front door?
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