RE: Who is the leader in bow technology right now?
 

It's almost like Atlas questioned someone about Scientology.:D

RE: Who is the leader in bow technology right now?
 

Post # 41! since you can't figure it out;)

Dan

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Oh I just seen it, that is bad arse:D

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Ifyou mean the General then I would say you are still waiting. The 2 are hard to even compare with the new string catcher being the likely source of any perceived "less" of either. Plus it is slower.


Many bows will do that today and more..........the speed game is over for Bowtech, everyone else is right there as well. The key to the future will be someone who can make a bow that is lights out fast with a buttery smooth draw. No one has yet.


Now you know how I feel. ;)

RE: Who is the leader in bow technology right now?
 

i think fred bear actully has a really nice looking lineup for 08, very advanced bows at a very low price.

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Post #41= http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/fb.aspx?m=2583638

I agree Germ, when it comes out it's going to be fantastic. I'll probably order one or wait for 09 models, don't know.

RE: Who is the leader in bow technology right now?
 

Who? I'm curious, at 5 grns per pound?

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http://www.highcountryarchery.com/

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Honest question......can HCA gt those speeds at 5gpp?

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To answer the original question......

O.L. Adcock

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HCA
PSE
APA
Elite

Off the top of my head.

RE: Who is the leader in bow technology right now?
 

atlasman, you need to go out and shoot all the bows you say that are out there that can shoot 340+ with a legal arrow and compare;)

If after that you still think they are all on an even playing field then I'm not sure about you;)Bowtech made the Black Knight a few years ago that would compare in speed to the Airborne 82 but if you shoot those bows side by side I bet even you could tell a vast improvement[8D]

How long you been in archery? I still remember when bows over 200 fps were consider fast (Dang rough to do it too) and 300 fps was thought to be untouchable. Now you have bows popped 300fps and are unbelieveably quiet, smooth and shock free.:D

My Guardian and General both shoot in the 280's with a 25 grain heavy arrow at only 60# and 28.5" draw.;)

Dan

RE: Who is the leader in bow technology right now?
 

Yep.........so do all the other companies I listed.


Like I said............the speed game is over.

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Shows how Little you really know if you believe that!![8D]

Dan

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HCA -Using Bowtech / Darton Binary cam patents
PSE - using overinflated draw length and draw weight numbers combined with the low brace height.
APA - using (At least they did? Bowtech's dual cam patent)
Elite - "Borrowing" Bowtech / Darton Binary cam patents.

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So??

Thank you Darton I guess.

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Where did you see me say they all felt the same??


My Patriot shoots a nice weight hunting arrow 275 fps and it is 5 years old...........what's your point?

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Thank You Bowtech!! for developing the Binary cam into such Hot technology several want to use it whatever they had to do to accomplish that:D

Dan

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really I though Darton did,CPS?

Bowtech modifed it to the Binary cam system, is this correct? If I am wrong let me know

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Funny..........that's the same thing you said when I had a problem with the delivery time I was quoted for my bow this year.

You were wrong about that too.............any time you want to admit it will be fine ;)

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Is Paris Hilton posting here now??

Never saw a grown man use the word "Hot" so much..........you sound like a teenager talking about the latest cell phone ;)

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atlasman, if you had stated you wanted MO Treestand any of us could have told you that was a no go for now, although it will be Sweet!! I just saw you mention special colors.

There are lots of them available!! Again Hats off toBowtech!:D

Dan

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THe fact the you know this does not bold well for you;)

RE: Who is the leader in bow technology right now?
 

my vote is for bowtech. I mean Mathews motto is Catch us if you can well I have a news flash bowtech passed you along time ago. and bowtech has only been around since 99 imagine what bows they will produce in 10-15 years.

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Why do you guys waste your time arguing with atlasman? All his posts end up the same way..He's just constantly argumentative about almost everything.

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Bold well............LOL

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Bring on the Heat![8D]I like it Hot-Hot Bows, Hot Cars, Hot coffee, Hot Chocolate, Hot Octane accessories, and Hot Women!!

I never saw anyone gripe so much about nothing!:eek:

Dan

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I can't be the only guy who saw the night vision video clip [:o]

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So I was right??............now you agree with everythig I said and understand my point??

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It sounded "HOT", now stop watching TMZ;)

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TMZ....................talk about not bolding well


LOL

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OK..........some of those are pretty cool.



I agree................you guys are pretty sensitive.

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You know you watch the Paris alerts[8D]
I bet you get an email alert when paris is on the move, admit it

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Group of people arguing with atlasman;)



Doesn't matter if you are right. Some refer to this as Shortman syndrome[8D]

Dan

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[8D]

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Dan,

At least be man enough to admit you were wrong.


Is this why they ran you out of Archery Talk??

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Wrong about what atlasman?? Did you say I can't get a MO Treestand bow and I'm PO'ed? You kept saying special color. There are lots of special colors out there.:D

What's that they say about being hung with a new Rope? I think you got SMS bad;)

As far as AT I think most know what happened over there.
It wasn't because I couldn't admit I'm wrong;)It was because they wished I was wrong most of the time!![8D]

Dan

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Okay, here is a list of the "speed bows" for everybody... this is their IBO ratings

APA Black Mamba X1- 355 f.p.s.
APA Black Mamba X2- 342 f.p.s.
BowTech 82nd Airborne- 350 f.p.s.
BowTech 101st Airborne- 340 f.p.s.
Elite GTO- 350 f.p.s.
Elite Synergy XT- 340 f.p.s.
HCA Iron Mace Trinary- 340 f.p.s.
Martin FireCat- 345 f.p.s.
Martin Slayer Xtreme C.A.T.- 350 f.p.s.
PSE X-Force HF- 348 f.p.s.
PSE X-Force Dream- 340 f.p.s.
PSE X-Force7 HF- 340 f.p.s.

Thats all of the ones that broke the 340 f.p.s. mark. Thats a total of a dozen bows. Now, if I wanted to get really technical I could mention that the BowTechs are tested with the string silencers and a nock on the string. If you factore those in then the BowTech 82nd should be around 358 f.p.s. and the 101st at around 348 f.p.s. Also, measure the true draw lengths and draw weights and see what happens. I would be willing to bet that if the draw lengths were set to exactly a measured 30" and the draw weight set to exactly 70 pounds, most if not all the bows besides the BowTechs would be between 5-10 f.p.s. slower than there advertised IBO speed!

RE: Who is the leader in bow technology right now?
 

I got 337.4 out of a 70# - 29".....with the first arrow ....through a WB!

Hard to believe they're fudging.....especially on a bow in a random shop in podunkville, NC.

362gr arrow

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Hey Dan, I am a short man, and don't like that remark one bit.;)

Seriously, you BowTech diehards (blowhards sometimes) are something else. I admire your loyalty, but get a grip already. You all would do well to look at Pat Dinan and how he handles himself to see how a true professional conducts himself.

This is not directed at any one person in particular, but if I were a BowTech exec. and read some of the posts on this thread from members displaying the BowTech Corporate Staff Member tag in their signature I'd be pulling some of those credentials. As representatives for BowTech you should provide information in a professional manner and not belittle those that need informed. Now I know some of it was friendly banter, but some of it clearly was not.

I really like BowTech and have owned more BT bows than any other company and will certainly own more.

I see where Atlas is coming from on the General. I have shot it and I am not overly impressed. It is slightly smoother in the draw than the Guardian, but not a vast improvement from a draw that was not my preference. Plus you lose speed, which is another downer. I did not shoot it side by side with the Guardian, so I couldn't say if it was more shock free or quieter, but it was definitely impressive in that regard. The thing is again it is slower.

To me the Airbornes are more impressive, and I actually prefer their draw to the General's.

The thing I really love about BowTech is that the listen to their customers about what they want and deliver. So here is my plea again. Take the Guardian/General design and put that together with the Airborne cams to create a quiet, shock free speed demon.

There's my request, I'll start saving my pennies now.;)