TMZ....................talk about not bolding well


LOL

OK..........some of those are pretty cool.



I agree................you guys are pretty sensitive.

You know you watch the Paris alerts[8D]
I bet you get an email alert when paris is on the move, admit it

Group of people arguing with atlasman



Doesn't matter if you are right. Some refer to this as Shortman syndrome[8D]

Dan

[8D]

Dan,

At least be man enough to admit you were wrong.


Is this why they ran you out of Archery Talk??

Wrong about what atlasman?? Did you say I can't get a MO Treestand bow and I'm PO'ed? You kept saying special color. There are lots of special colors out there.

What's that they say about being hung with a new Rope? I think you got SMS bad

As far as AT I think most know what happened over there.
It wasn't because I couldn't admit I'm wrongIt was because they wished I was wrong most of the time!![8D]

Dan

Okay, here is a list of the "speed bows" for everybody... this is their IBO ratings

APA Black Mamba X1- 355 f.p.s.
APA Black Mamba X2- 342 f.p.s.
BowTech 82nd Airborne- 350 f.p.s.
BowTech 101st Airborne- 340 f.p.s.
Elite GTO- 350 f.p.s.
Elite Synergy XT- 340 f.p.s.
HCA Iron Mace Trinary- 340 f.p.s.
Martin FireCat- 345 f.p.s.
Martin Slayer Xtreme C.A.T.- 350 f.p.s.
PSE X-Force HF- 348 f.p.s.
PSE X-Force Dream- 340 f.p.s.
PSE X-Force7 HF- 340 f.p.s.

Thats all of the ones that broke the 340 f.p.s. mark. Thats a total of a dozen bows. Now, if I wanted to get really technical I could mention that the BowTechs are tested with the string silencers and a nock on the string. If you factore those in then the BowTech 82nd should be around 358 f.p.s. and the 101st at around 348 f.p.s. Also, measure the true draw lengths and draw weights and see what happens. I would be willing to bet that if the draw lengths were set to exactly a measured 30" and the draw weight set to exactly 70 pounds, most if not all the bows besides the BowTechs would be between 5-10 f.p.s. slower than there advertised IBO speed!

I got 337.4 out of a 70# - 29".....with the first arrow ....through a WB!

Hard to believe they're fudging.....especially on a bow in a random shop in podunkville, NC.

362gr arrow

Hey Dan, I am a short man, and don't like that remark one bit.

Seriously, you BowTech diehards (blowhards sometimes) are something else. I admire your loyalty, but get a grip already. You all would do well to look at Pat Dinan and how he handles himself to see how a true professional conducts himself.

This is not directed at any one person in particular, but if I were a BowTech exec. and read some of the posts on this thread from members displaying the BowTech Corporate Staff Member tag in their signature I'd be pulling some of those credentials. As representatives for BowTech you should provide information in a professional manner and not belittle those that need informed. Now I know some of it was friendly banter, but some of it clearly was not.

I really like BowTech and have owned more BT bows than any other company and will certainly own more.

I see where Atlas is coming from on the General. I have shot it and I am not overly impressed. It is slightly smoother in the draw than the Guardian, but not a vast improvement from a draw that was not my preference. Plus you lose speed, which is another downer. I did not shoot it side by side with the Guardian, so I couldn't say if it was more shock free or quieter, but it was definitely impressive in that regard. The thing is again it is slower.

To me the Airbornes are more impressive, and I actually prefer their draw to the General's.

The thing I really love about BowTech is that the listen to their customers about what they want and deliver. So here is my plea again. Take the Guardian/General design and put that together with the Airborne cams to create a quiet, shock free speed demon.

There's my request, I'll start saving my pennies now.