After years of shooting and often winning 3D shoots,

I've missed deer at 16 yards with my compound, why do I need to hunt with a traditional bow again to think it's harder? I probably would have hit him shooting instinctive.

I guarantee Rob that you will hit allot better at 20 then most traditional guys! You put your pin where you want it to go, it should go there! We look at our spot and concentrate like hell and hope it goes where were aiming and looking at, thats why its called instinctive shooting. There should be no argument here period, its challenging to do especially when actually hunting! Go on a 3-D shoot and shoot against a traditional shooter while your shooting your compound and in most cases your going to win hands down!

You guys that use the stick and string with cedar arrows, flint heads and turkey feathers...well that's all fine and good....but until you have hunted whitetails by the ways of our Neanderthal ancestors, you haven't really hunted at all....If you really want to get to the heart of hunting....really want to face nature one on one....get yourself a rock....a big rock...the biggest that you can lift and hoist up onto a high tree branch overlooking a trail leading to water...then wait....and wait some more....wait through the rain and wind....with only your loincloth and furs to warm your body....as your calloused bare feet sting and ache from the cold and the piercing bark of thebranch you are hunched upon...then...suddenly....it happens...a deerinnocently wanders under your tree despite the stench from your filthy dirt stained skin that has never seen soap....You struggle to raise the rock over your head.....at just the right moment.....you plunge it down onto the deers skull....he falls...you jump onto his flailing body and dig yourlong, sharp,thick dirty fingernails into the hide of his neck....you rip at his flesh until hemoves no more....you taste the warmth of his blood and grunt to yourself at a job well done.....until you've hunted this way, you haven't really hunted at all......but be warned....once you do try, you may never pick up a bow again....

Your not telling me something I don't know Shultzy. I can shoot a traditional bow (right Matt) as I can shoot a compound traditional as well, I do it all the time. I once stacked two arrows with a setup compound and took the sight off at 20 yards, you should see the jaws drop, won some money doing that.

My point is and still is, if both archers can hit the deer, why is one "harder" than the other. I'm not talking the actual shooting, I'm talking hunting? That's been my question all along. Everyone says traditional is hunting the hard way, or it's real bowhunting.

Here's something I posted earlier in this thread. There are no hard feelings with you Rob one bit. You represent bow hunting the right way in my eye's, you've impressed me with allot of your posts. Answer this one for me though...


I've noticed since I've joined this forum back in September that allot of times when a person makes a traditional post in the Bow Hunting Forum, he better be prepared to hear comments from some of the compound shooters. It always seems to turn into a whats harder thread, thats not what this thread was intended to be. Right away in this thread that comment was made! I really think some people get insecure around traditional folks, some of the traditional folks bring it on themselves but some of times on this forum the jabs are un called for. I've seen it first hand talking hunting with people. I don't like talking about it with allot of people because I can feel the tension towards myself and I don't gotta say a word.

Rob, buddy.....I have to ask you a question.

If "Bob" works 30 yrs in his field and works his way up through the ranks.....from the mail room....to the executive vice president's corner office...........and "Dan" is the owner of the company's son....and goes from the frat house to the other EVP position........

Which way is "harder"?

You have to be able to see the differnece. As a guitar player.....I kinda see it like learning to play a song.....vs turning on the ipod. They're both still just "songs", right?

Now this is very silly. One thing different about trad is, its about quality of practice not quanity. I learned the hard way. When I first started trad, I shot so much, and ended up getting frustrated and worse and worse. I highly recommend a person never shoot more than 12 arrows at a time. And shoot once and go retrieve your arrows. Its not like compound.

You are right Rob! Hunting is no easier with one or the other. Shooting how ever is.

Glad I posted this for us!

Rob...Awesome comments!....Again....I will say it! When you make a hole....the animal bleeds!.....its up to you to get it in the zone!.....

I was darn near hugging the button buck I killed (first with traditonal)with flint in 1998.......It was me & him that night...no friends....no cameras......the little button and me.....I looked at that hole that the flint made and could not believe my eyes......As the sun dropped I held the deer and told myself" oh my gosh...its not about the broadhead or bow...these things bleed when you poke ahole in those vitals....even with a stone....it only went 20 yards....I couldn't believe the stone did what it did!!

BC....I never heard anyone say that.....

But I rarely shoot more than 30 arrows.....and I only shoot a time or two a week. I'm not saying I'm good. I'm just saying I try to keep it "fun" as much as I can.

Interesting.....