Outfitter vs No Outfitter
#11
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Because I live in a state that has an abundance of whitetail deer, but NO pronghorns.
I'm going to an area of the country where I know no one.
I "personally" have chosen not to hunt with an outfitter for animals that I can hunt right out my back door (Whitetails and turkeys). Just a personal decision.
I'm not trying to hijack this thread at all but I'm just curious why you choose an outfitter to go Antelope hunting and not deer hunting?
I'm going to an area of the country where I know no one.
I "personally" have chosen not to hunt with an outfitter for animals that I can hunt right out my back door (Whitetails and turkeys). Just a personal decision.
#12
I've never used an outfitter for deer or turkeys, but if I were going out west to hunt elk or pronghorns i'd probably use one. It's such a different game that I wouldn't know where to begin.
#13
ORIGINAL: dukemichaels
Check out this website.. www.bowhuntingwhitetails.com
He's an outfitter technicly.. but not in the normal use of the word. He's all 'Do It Yourself'.. you will hang your own stands.. your own leg work..etc etc.
Craig will just meet you, give you an aerial and a topo map and send you on your way. The rest is up to you. The only thing different about this compared with public land is his is all private. And they are all awesome pieces of ground (loaded with does). You will have 1 week to yourself to hunt and hunt hard in trophy areas of some of the countries best states.
I wrote a story on a recent hunt I had with Craig on a DIY piece of ground located in Illinois. Good luck -Mike
http://www.huntingnet.com/fieldjournal/fieldjournal_detail.aspx?nID=817
Check out this website.. www.bowhuntingwhitetails.com
He's an outfitter technicly.. but not in the normal use of the word. He's all 'Do It Yourself'.. you will hang your own stands.. your own leg work..etc etc.
Craig will just meet you, give you an aerial and a topo map and send you on your way. The rest is up to you. The only thing different about this compared with public land is his is all private. And they are all awesome pieces of ground (loaded with does). You will have 1 week to yourself to hunt and hunt hard in trophy areas of some of the countries best states.
I wrote a story on a recent hunt I had with Craig on a DIY piece of ground located in Illinois. Good luck -Mike
http://www.huntingnet.com/fieldjournal/fieldjournal_detail.aspx?nID=817
#14
There are a lot of considerations.Do you intend to go back to the same state and area repeatedly? If so DIY is the only way to go,especially if you are hunting deer.How much time will you have to devote to your trips,the longer the amount of time the more a DIY makes sense.
If you are hiunting larger species such as Elk or Moose do you have the equipment and knowledge to get the animal out of the woods in sufficient time not to ruin the meat? There are a lot more variables when hunting larger game and if taking a one time trip of this nature a good outfitter may make that trip a lot more pleasant.
It is definitely my preference to DIY,I like to have the outcome determined by my own efforts.
Contact Fish and Game in the states you wish to hunt ask to speak to the biologists for the particular species you wish to hunt,they can provide a lot of excellent information,tell them what your goals are and ask them given your goals what area's of the state should you be focusing on,sometimes they can even direct you to rental housing,cabin,house,motels etc.
If you decide to go the route of an Outfitter come back on the board here or PM me so myself and others here can help you with that process.There is nothing worse than a terrible outfitted hunt!
If you are hiunting larger species such as Elk or Moose do you have the equipment and knowledge to get the animal out of the woods in sufficient time not to ruin the meat? There are a lot more variables when hunting larger game and if taking a one time trip of this nature a good outfitter may make that trip a lot more pleasant.
It is definitely my preference to DIY,I like to have the outcome determined by my own efforts.
Contact Fish and Game in the states you wish to hunt ask to speak to the biologists for the particular species you wish to hunt,they can provide a lot of excellent information,tell them what your goals are and ask them given your goals what area's of the state should you be focusing on,sometimes they can even direct you to rental housing,cabin,house,motels etc.
If you decide to go the route of an Outfitter come back on the board here or PM me so myself and others here can help you with that process.There is nothing worse than a terrible outfitted hunt!
#15
The kicker is time and money. If you don't have the time to travel to scout and prep a bit and have some dough than go for it. 
It seems alot of guyslump outfitters in with high fence operations which is not fair.I DO know from experience that some "guides"will put you in a stand you would ever dream of setting up there if itwas your choice.
I did a $1500.00 " (CHEAP) guided" week long PA hunt a couple of years ago and in hind sight I could have had better odds if I had given myself three days to scout on my own prior to hunting and just hunted a couple of days.
It seems alot of guyslump outfitters in with high fence operations which is not fair.I DO know from experience that some "guides"will put you in a stand you would ever dream of setting up there if itwas your choice.
I did a $1500.00 " (CHEAP) guided" week long PA hunt a couple of years ago and in hind sight I could have had better odds if I had given myself three days to scout on my own prior to hunting and just hunted a couple of days.
#17
ORIGINAL: early in
I love hunting the Edmonton Bow Zone for giant whitetails. If you're a non resident you MUST hunt with a guide in Canada, it's the law.
I love hunting the Edmonton Bow Zone for giant whitetails. If you're a non resident you MUST hunt with a guide in Canada, it's the law.
#18
Do whatever you think best according to the time, money, and challenge you prefer. Personally I prefer DIY hunts though I have only hunted once out of state. Went on an elk hunt with a guy who invited me along. Long story short, he has a prosthetic leg and is limited to his travel and terrain. I am determined to get an elk DIY on public land, but I will choose where I go next time. Lots of research available from state's department of natural resources on success rates in different areas, game populations, hunter numbers, laws, and permit availability.
#20
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Feb 2003
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It's all a tradeoff, being successfull, unless you are VERY lucky, takes time to research the area to find "zones" to hunt, get access to private property if needed, then scout and find smaller areas to concentrate on. Then there's the learning curve needed if going after a new animal.
If you have the time, money and ability to do the above in a timeframe to your liking, go for it.
Outfitters cut that above time to zero, or close to it, you still need to research the outfitter!
I've been on 3 guided elk hunts and agree with GMMAT, i won't go guided for whitetails, i can do that here. Though who knows what the future will bring. However I LOVE hunting bugling elk but its a different world than sitting in a treestand waiting on a whitetail.
If you have the time, money and ability to do the above in a timeframe to your liking, go for it.
Outfitters cut that above time to zero, or close to it, you still need to research the outfitter!
I've been on 3 guided elk hunts and agree with GMMAT, i won't go guided for whitetails, i can do that here. Though who knows what the future will bring. However I LOVE hunting bugling elk but its a different world than sitting in a treestand waiting on a whitetail.


