Outfitter vs No Outfitter
12-29-2007 | 12:57 PM
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From: Missouri
Outfitter vs No Outfitter
Background - I just completed my first full season of bowhunting. Im 37 and pissed that I just now found this awesome sport. I have been mentored by a great hunter and have enough knowledge to get in the woods and find deer.
The point - Next season I plan to do some traveling and hunt some different states. Right now I can hunt KS and MO
Bottom line - I need to make up for lost time (years).
1. Would you use an outfitter or test your skills on public land?
2. What steps do I need to take for hunting different staes
The point - Next season I plan to do some traveling and hunt some different states. Right now I can hunt KS and MO
Bottom line - I need to make up for lost time (years).
1. Would you use an outfitter or test your skills on public land?
2. What steps do I need to take for hunting different staes
12-29-2007 | 01:12 PM
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Typical Buck
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From: Central Illinois
RE: Outfitter vs No Outfitter
DIY all the way! No need for an outfitter. Go to each states website and study all the laws and drawing deadlines. There is no better hunt than an all DIY! Live and die by your own choices!
12-29-2007 | 01:14 PM
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Typical Buck
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From: Central Illinois
RE: Outfitter vs No Outfitter
Here is a link from this website to start your research.
http://www.huntingnet.com/staticpages/staticpage_detail.aspx?id=290
http://www.huntingnet.com/staticpages/staticpage_detail.aspx?id=290
12-29-2007 | 01:28 PM
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Giant Nontypical
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From: Central Minnesota
RE: Outfitter vs No Outfitter
Do it yourself if you can. You learn so much more on your own mistakes and success! But if thats not your thing and you don't want to work all that hard you can pay someone to do the work for ya, there's plenty of good guides out there!
12-29-2007 | 02:17 PM
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Spike
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RE: Outfitter vs No Outfitter
An outfitter, the right outfitter, will have access to land with a limited amount of hunters. The success ratio on public land is much lower and you almost have to be an outfitter yourself with all the gear you need. I am always for DIY public lands hunts, but I am also willing to have a unsuccessful season if I do not see what I am looking for.
For your needsfrom what you stated I would go with a well researched outfitter. SRM out!
For your needsfrom what you stated I would go with a well researched outfitter. SRM out!
12-29-2007 | 02:28 PM
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Dominant Buck
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RE: Outfitter vs No Outfitter
I've used an outfitter on two occasions.......both times I was Pheasant hunting.
In '09....a group of us from this site is going to WY to hunt Pronhorns. We'll be using an outfitter on that trip.
To "me".....it is what it is. I have the opportunity to hunt whitetails right here at home....and they're in good numbers. I have no "personal" need to seek an outfitter to hunt whitetails. Granted....the SIZE of the deer I'm able to hunt, here, is smaller than I could hunt with MOST outfitters.
My personal feeling is......"I" would get less satisfaction from taking a larger racked deer from an outfitter.......than I would from taking one in which i did the scouting.....I set the stand.....I chose the stand for that particular hunt.....etc...etc...etc...
That's just "me", though. That's what makes hunting so great. It's very personal. If using an outfitter is your bag......rock on, brother.
In '09....a group of us from this site is going to WY to hunt Pronhorns. We'll be using an outfitter on that trip.
To "me".....it is what it is. I have the opportunity to hunt whitetails right here at home....and they're in good numbers. I have no "personal" need to seek an outfitter to hunt whitetails. Granted....the SIZE of the deer I'm able to hunt, here, is smaller than I could hunt with MOST outfitters.
My personal feeling is......"I" would get less satisfaction from taking a larger racked deer from an outfitter.......than I would from taking one in which i did the scouting.....I set the stand.....I chose the stand for that particular hunt.....etc...etc...etc...
That's just "me", though. That's what makes hunting so great. It's very personal. If using an outfitter is your bag......rock on, brother.
12-29-2007 | 03:06 PM
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Giant Nontypical
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From: Central Minnesota
RE: Outfitter vs No Outfitter
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
I've used an outfitter on two occasions.......both times I was Pheasant hunting.
In '09....a group of us from this site is going to WY to hunt Pronhorns. We'll be using an outfitter on that trip.
To "me".....it is what it is. I have the opportunity to hunt whitetails right here at home....and they're in good numbers. I have no "personal" need to seek an outfitter to hunt whitetails. Granted....the SIZE of the deer I'm able to hunt, here, is smaller than I could hunt with MOST outfitters.
My personal feeling is......"I" would get less satisfaction from taking a larger racked deer from an outfitter.......than I would from taking one in which i did the scouting.....I set the stand.....I chose the stand for that particular hunt.....etc...etc...etc...
That's just "me", though. That's what makes hunting so great. It's very personal. If using an outfitter is your bag......rock on, brother.
I've used an outfitter on two occasions.......both times I was Pheasant hunting.
In '09....a group of us from this site is going to WY to hunt Pronhorns. We'll be using an outfitter on that trip.
To "me".....it is what it is. I have the opportunity to hunt whitetails right here at home....and they're in good numbers. I have no "personal" need to seek an outfitter to hunt whitetails. Granted....the SIZE of the deer I'm able to hunt, here, is smaller than I could hunt with MOST outfitters.
My personal feeling is......"I" would get less satisfaction from taking a larger racked deer from an outfitter.......than I would from taking one in which i did the scouting.....I set the stand.....I chose the stand for that particular hunt.....etc...etc...etc...
That's just "me", though. That's what makes hunting so great. It's very personal. If using an outfitter is your bag......rock on, brother.
12-29-2007 | 03:59 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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From: Northwest suburbs, Illinois
RE: Outfitter vs No Outfitter
Check out this website.. www.bowhuntingwhitetails.com
He's an outfitter technicly.. but not in the normal use of the word. He's all 'Do It Yourself'.. you will hang your own stands.. your own leg work..etc etc.
Craig will just meet you, give you an aerial and a topo map and send you on your way. The rest is up to you. The only thing different about this compared with public land is his is all private. And they are all awesome pieces of ground (loaded with does). You will have 1 week to yourself to hunt and hunt hard in trophy areas of some of the countries best states.
I wrote a story on a recent hunt I had with Craig on a DIY piece of ground located in Illinois. Good luck -Mike
http://www.huntingnet.com/fieldjournal/fieldjournal_detail.aspx?nID=817
He's an outfitter technicly.. but not in the normal use of the word. He's all 'Do It Yourself'.. you will hang your own stands.. your own leg work..etc etc.
Craig will just meet you, give you an aerial and a topo map and send you on your way. The rest is up to you. The only thing different about this compared with public land is his is all private. And they are all awesome pieces of ground (loaded with does). You will have 1 week to yourself to hunt and hunt hard in trophy areas of some of the countries best states.
I wrote a story on a recent hunt I had with Craig on a DIY piece of ground located in Illinois. Good luck -Mike
http://www.huntingnet.com/fieldjournal/fieldjournal_detail.aspx?nID=817
12-29-2007 | 04:03 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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From: Cobb County, Georgia
RE: Outfitter vs No Outfitter
that is all up to yourself but i would say buy some land or aquire some permission to hunt private land if that doesnt work out then public land, and if still no luck get a lease. but dont give up on asking people for permission . remember all that they can say is no. thats not so bad. in the 2 years i have been hunting i have had no problem finding a place to hunt. and im only a teenager, so its harder for me. but i am def. more responsible and mature than most kids i know.
12-29-2007 | 04:04 PM
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Dominant Buck
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I'm not trying to hijack this thread at all but I'm just curious why you choose an outfitter to go Antelope hunting and not deer hunting?
I'm going to an area of the country where I know no one.
I "personally" have chosen not to hunt with an outfitter for animals that I can hunt right out my back door (Whitetails and turkeys). Just a personal decision.