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Bowhunters - do you root against the gunners?
12-11-2007, 10:35 AM
#131
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Southwest Ohio
Posts: 10,277
RE: Bowhunters - do you root against the gunners?
What are any of us even doing online. To show our wholehearted support for our fellow humans, we should all be in a lab somewhere serving as human guinea pigs for the development of AIDS vaccines. And that is positive proof that bow hunters have a right to wish bad luck on gun hunters.
12-11-2007, 10:39 AM
#132
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Michigan/Ohio
Posts: 11,682
RE: Bowhunters - do you root against the gunners?
ORIGINAL: rybohunter
Can I have his spot? [8D]
Can I have his spot? [8D]
I will say this, the people I was looking to invite were ones who do not have access to some great ground that I know on HNI. I wanted to share what it is like to hunt great hunting land, but since Fran has pointed out, I can not do it with entire country, I am a jerk
12-11-2007, 10:39 AM
#133
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Cogan Station, PA
Posts: 2,298
RE: Bowhunters - do you root against the gunners?
ORIGINAL: Buck Magnet
Wow, yet another chest thumping thread.
Fran, my question to you is how does turning somebody down from hunting your property (which you worked for and paid for) instantly causing them to have less luck throughout the season? Since when did turning somebody down instantly mean that their season was going to be a bust?
This whole post is a huge joke and partially why I haven't posted as much lately as I use to. With each season that passes I keep seeing more and more chest thumping egos starting up instead of just getting out and enjoying hunting. Why must everybody try to cut down others ways of hunting. One minute it is archers saying that they are superior hunters over rifle hunters, next its public land hunters saying they are superior hunters over private land hunters because it is harder. Baiting vs non-baiting. Deer drives vs stand hunters, ect.. Do you have to cut others down to make yourself feel better and to justify how you hunt? I have seen plenty examples in this post, all the comments about how an archer passes deer just to have your "one day wonder" shoot him with a rifle..... who in the world are you to criticize that hunters knowledge and accomplishments? That guy could have forgot more about deer hunting than you will learn in a lifetime, but you are so quick to judge him simply by his weapon choice. Thats just sad and pathetic.
Here is an idea..... forget what others are doing and just go hunt, trust me, it will be much more enjoyable when you decide to hunt for the enjoyment, not so you can thump your chest and proclaim yourself as the worlds greatest deer hunter, I am pretty sure Jackie Bushman has that locked up anyways
Wow, yet another chest thumping thread.
Fran, my question to you is how does turning somebody down from hunting your property (which you worked for and paid for) instantly causing them to have less luck throughout the season? Since when did turning somebody down instantly mean that their season was going to be a bust?
This whole post is a huge joke and partially why I haven't posted as much lately as I use to. With each season that passes I keep seeing more and more chest thumping egos starting up instead of just getting out and enjoying hunting. Why must everybody try to cut down others ways of hunting. One minute it is archers saying that they are superior hunters over rifle hunters, next its public land hunters saying they are superior hunters over private land hunters because it is harder. Baiting vs non-baiting. Deer drives vs stand hunters, ect.. Do you have to cut others down to make yourself feel better and to justify how you hunt? I have seen plenty examples in this post, all the comments about how an archer passes deer just to have your "one day wonder" shoot him with a rifle..... who in the world are you to criticize that hunters knowledge and accomplishments? That guy could have forgot more about deer hunting than you will learn in a lifetime, but you are so quick to judge him simply by his weapon choice. Thats just sad and pathetic.
Here is an idea..... forget what others are doing and just go hunt, trust me, it will be much more enjoyable when you decide to hunt for the enjoyment, not so you can thump your chest and proclaim yourself as the worlds greatest deer hunter, I am pretty sure Jackie Bushman has that locked up anyways
I get the feeling from many members on here (some of whom are very helpful and otherwise very knowledgable) that they truly think of themselves as maybe not superior, but somehow more respected for being archery-only hunters. It's very sad, since there's a few members on here I would really love to sit down and talk hunting with and get out and do some shooting. But then you wonder if that person really trully has that type of attitude he/she displays online, and then I would rather pass.
12-11-2007, 10:45 AM
#134
Giant Nontypical
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 5,716
RE: Bowhunters - do you root against the gunners?
BG - I never claimed to be a champion of the starving masses or the needy. But I'll humor you...
I donate about $50 a year to thanksgiving and xmas food drives, and took a new football to the Stuff-a-bus for poor kids. The stark reality is that $50 and a football is where I draw the line and say "enough for you, the rest is for me." I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that I am doing everything in my power for the good of the needy.
I'm adult enough to admit that I am putting myself in front of those less fortunate. I have a commodity (food) that is in need, and I choose to keep it for myself (except for $50 in canned food that I take to my mom's church). I do it because I'm selfish, and i'm not willing to starve myself so that those less fortunate can eat. It's human nature, and we all do it.
Everybody does it- it's all about where you draw the line. How far are you willing to go?
I say that if you are going to come here and claim to the world that you "support all hunters" carte blanche - then it is what it is. You should do everything in your power to help them, even if it means letting a total stranger come over to your place and shoot a deer.
If not, just admit that you're being greedy, and hording your deer for yourself.
It is what it is.
Where do I draw the line? Friends/Family. I'd put any one of my buddies or family membersin my best stand in the peak of the rut, whether I was tagged out or not. That's just how I roll. Outside that narrow circle - everyone else can fend for themselves. Maybe that makes me some kind of hunting antichrist, who knows?
I donate about $50 a year to thanksgiving and xmas food drives, and took a new football to the Stuff-a-bus for poor kids. The stark reality is that $50 and a football is where I draw the line and say "enough for you, the rest is for me." I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that I am doing everything in my power for the good of the needy.
I'm adult enough to admit that I am putting myself in front of those less fortunate. I have a commodity (food) that is in need, and I choose to keep it for myself (except for $50 in canned food that I take to my mom's church). I do it because I'm selfish, and i'm not willing to starve myself so that those less fortunate can eat. It's human nature, and we all do it.
Everybody does it- it's all about where you draw the line. How far are you willing to go?
I say that if you are going to come here and claim to the world that you "support all hunters" carte blanche - then it is what it is. You should do everything in your power to help them, even if it means letting a total stranger come over to your place and shoot a deer.
If not, just admit that you're being greedy, and hording your deer for yourself.
It is what it is.
Where do I draw the line? Friends/Family. I'd put any one of my buddies or family membersin my best stand in the peak of the rut, whether I was tagged out or not. That's just how I roll. Outside that narrow circle - everyone else can fend for themselves. Maybe that makes me some kind of hunting antichrist, who knows?
12-11-2007, 10:46 AM
#135
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Southwest Ohio
Posts: 10,277
RE: Bowhunters - do you root against the gunners?
Not even a valid point on page 7. Big difference between passive (for want of a better term) support for someone and wishing failure on them.The comment about a cure for cancer kind of became the straw that broke the camels back. There's something nutty in PA>
12-11-2007, 10:48 AM
#136
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Jacksonville, IL/ Huntington, WV
Posts: 1,573
RE: Bowhunters - do you root against the gunners?
ORIGINAL: quiksilver
Where do I draw the line? Friends/Family. I'd put any one of my buddies or family membersin my best stand in the peak of the rut, whether I was tagged out or not. That's just how I roll. Outside that narrow circle - everyone else can fend for themselves. Maybe that makes me some kind of hunting antichrist, who knows?
Where do I draw the line? Friends/Family. I'd put any one of my buddies or family membersin my best stand in the peak of the rut, whether I was tagged out or not. That's just how I roll. Outside that narrow circle - everyone else can fend for themselves. Maybe that makes me some kind of hunting antichrist, who knows?
12-11-2007, 10:49 AM
#137
Typical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chambersburg, PA
Posts: 812
RE: Bowhunters - do you root against the gunners?
I can't go against gun hunters, for that would mean that I would be against my father. He is the reason that I started hunting in the first place. I go rifle hunting with him the first two days of the season for tradition. I don't care if I would get anything, but I try my best to have something go past him or my son (hasn't got a deer yet).
12-11-2007, 10:50 AM
#138
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Wisconsin and Canada
Posts: 2,415
RE: Bowhunters - do you root against the gunners?
ORIGINAL: GregH
No, I don't root against gun hunters. I also hunt with a gun.
No, I don't root against gun hunters. I also hunt with a gun.
GREG!!! The Site Buck Guru also hunts with a gun? OMG!!!! [8D](Kidding of course)......BTW we need to set dates for your Canadian hunt next year.
12-11-2007, 10:52 AM
#139
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Southwest Ohio
Posts: 10,277
RE: Bowhunters - do you root against the gunners?
Go,
I think that plenty of folks will admit to that philosophy. But it doesn't mean that someone can't still be supportive of other hunters and instead must wish failure on them to avoid being a hypocrite.
I think that plenty of folks will admit to that philosophy. But it doesn't mean that someone can't still be supportive of other hunters and instead must wish failure on them to avoid being a hypocrite.
12-11-2007, 10:52 AM
#140
Giant Nontypical
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 5,716
RE: Bowhunters - do you root against the gunners?
ORIGINAL: GregH
No, I don't root against gun hunters. I also hunt with a gun.
No, I don't root against gun hunters. I also hunt with a gun.
Germ - I didn't say you're a jerk. Just a hypocrite. [&:]
BM - Sorry if I offended you on so many levels. I wasn't ragging on anyone else for their way of hunting. I was just seeing what everyone else's opinion was of other guys hunting the same herd. So kill me if I'm not jumping for joy if I hear about some gun hunter cranking a big 3.5 off of my favorite archery farm. I might give them a hollow "Congratulations" - but deep down - I'm thinking "Man, that would have been a SLAMMER next year... Damn."